Dibakar unplugged
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Dibakar does not mince words while talking about Oye Lucky, Lucky Oye and cinema in general.
This piece of discussion includes the following in order:-
-Answers to complaints about, “ story nahi hai yaar”.(There is no story)
-Emotional pornography, cumshots, corruption in audiences mind.
-Richa Chadda’s driver’s point of view.
-Enjoying films like OLLO, Black Friday
-Different audiences, different takes.
-Graph of films, behavior , characters
-Why our films are not able to capture true behavior. Why is the culture biased towards artificiality, non real behavior.
-Films do not change anything, they reflect, what exists,
-Most of the films do not work because they are not well skilled enough. Even regressive films, which are well made can be successful.
-Khosla ka Ghosla is a classic eg. of well made regressive film! How it is like ‘Trishul’.
-Films with/ without shag values.
-Why first 25 mins work and are the best part of the film.
-If you started the wanking, a cumshot is a must!
-Alternative endings of OLLO.
-Why 3 Paresh Ravals.
-Budget of OLLO.
-Money game in films, film budgets, film marketing…
-‘Didn’t have a baby because of Khosla’
-Story of casting Manjyot, Manu Rishi, Lucky big brother.
-Which dialogues are Dibakar’s and which are Manu Rishi’s.
-Left out dialogues of OLLO.
-‘NRIs go to watch NRI shaadi to cinema halls’, they are fed on regressive cinema.
-Dibakar’s sell out film…film maker’s quest for a bigger SUV, bigger flat, farm house, beach house.
Present in this discussion were, Amit Masurkar, Karan Makhija and your’s truly.
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MINDBLOWING DIBAKAR,I don’t remember the last time someone made me stick my headphones so hard to my ears.
AWESOME AUDIO CLIP! HISTORIC!!!
LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN
So the audience is ‘Lucky’, eh?
Can we have an mp3 link of this conversation? (please!)
amazing stuff…thanks a ton Manjeet for this…
@Pratik, done.
Thanks so much boss! This one’s a keeper!!
Holy shit…god damn..this is amazing..this clip should be circulated around..what a fantastic discussion and the analogies that dibaker gives..mind fucking brilliant…
Forgot..thanks a ton Amit Masurkar, Karan Makhija and manjeetey
Simply amazing conversations. Thought of listening to this in 2-3 parts. Finished at one stretch (1 hour 20 mins). Its that bloody interesting. Thanks for posting this. Liked the analogies of Dibakar.
freakin’ awesome.
first time I ever sat through a recorded interview this long — with it being something I wasn’t transcribing.
awesome stuff, guys. dibakar is amazingly candid and Manjeet, I’m just jealous I didn’t get to do the interview.
great, great fun. keep it up.
Candid and heartfelt! A nice interview indeed. Thanks for posting Manjeet!
hey Dibakar,
Saw the film and absolutely loved it. Honestly, for me, it was better than KKG. A definite step up for you.
A good example of unpretentious new age “Indian” cinema.
Awesome … the man is such a good talker !
Is Amit the guy who is talking the most? He is awesome..the way he is taking the conversation ahead and not coming with a fixed set of questions..love it..awesome job Amit( if that is you)
I feel, in the director’s cut of the DVD, this exact conversation should be kept
It was wonderful listening to this entire discussion. I couldn’t get up for the entire duration of it and now I plan to listen to it again.
. (and somehow we got a contact in UTV, God bless them!) Maan hi nahin rahe the…they wanted only comedies. Maine kaha ke zabardast comedy hai, dikhaao 
. Kya karein? Because, I know, if we don’t show these films to audiences, their perception about Indian films will be limited to films like KANK and Kuchh Kuchh Hota Hai.
. In the Hawaii International Film Festival, you know, what were the Indian movies shown this time? ‘Bachna Ae Haseeno’ and ‘Drona’! Because, Indian films are money spinners. You show silly dances, some foreign locales and some trying-hard-to-look-American actors and people love those movies. Because it SO strengthens their beliefs that, isse achhi movie India se nahin aa sakti!
. And we want our films to get the same kind of respect that other good world cinema gets. But what can be done? Any ideas? Because, at this point I seem to be fighting a lonely battle! (Wow! That sounds nice 
) Every film amongst my suggestions that will be screened at the ‘Bollywood’ (someone file a PIL please… this term’s offensive!) film festival is a small victory for me and for our film makers who are willing to go against the tide. But we need more support, if we truly want our cinema to be ‘respected’.
There is something I want to say here. Its not the first time I am saying this, but I feel it needs to be said again. I so agree with Dibakar when he says ke ‘NRIs go to cinema halls to watch NRI shaadis’. Sirf NRIs hi nahin Americans bhi wohi dekhne jaate hain. Par problem sirf audience mein nahin hai. Hum bhi audience hain aur hamaare jaise log bhi hain yahaan. (I have DVDs that I give out to people who are interested in good cinema. Whoever has seen Maqbool has loved it!) I can give the example of our city – no one wants to sell Indian films here. Yahaan film festival organize kar rahe hain and the first film I suggested was ‘Maqbool’. Emails likhe, phones kiye – kahin se koi response nahin! I didn’t know where to write this…. par itna frustration hota hai, when you push a great film like ‘Maqbool’ to be shown in a film festival and you can’t show it. Ek to, public ko har film mein Shah Rukh Khan naachta hua dikhna hai, aur phir upar se distributors/production companies jawaab dena zaroori nahin samajhte. So, what happens? Yashraj Films ka contact jawaab deta hai, and we get into the rut of showing their films only! Is saal kisi tarah maine ‘Khosla Ka Ghosla’ dhakka maarke ghusaaya literally
We (audiences and film makers) keep complaining about our films not getting their deserved recognition in the world. Par yeh bhi socho, ke jo movies ‘hyped’ hoti hain, woh kaun si waali movies hoti hain? ‘Devdas’, ‘KANK’, ‘Kal Ho Na Ho’, ‘Fanaa’….No one is interested in good films, because those films are not readily available! And people in distribution/production houses are not interested yaar! And even if they are, they want the same rates for a screening in Honolulu (with a population of maybe 1200 Indians, of which 80% think its below their dignity to watch a Hindi film), as they want for a screening in a New Jersey theatre. Koshish ki hai, bahut! Par sab paison ka khel hai
And then we have an Omkara screening (not one of my favourites, but at least not in the league of some movies I have mentioned above), where people are laughing like there’s a hugely funny movie going on… because they are ‘conditioned’ to laugh at our movies.
When are we going to do something about this? I don’t think that we Indians don’t have a life here. Some don’t maybe, but we do
Am I making sense, or just rambling?
Oh and yes
, if any of you has any doubts that I making any money out of this effort of mine – getting to show good films here – that is not the fact. I don’t earn a single penny out of this. On the contrary, I shell out money from our pockets. And while at this, I also want to tell you that I don’t feel that I am doing anything great and neither do I want any recognition for my efforts 
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That was my ‘Disclaimer Statement’
Awesome interview. It felt right from the heart. I was totally plugged in for the entire length of the interview.
One comment about Dibakar’s opinion about NRI crowd.
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I am a NRI from USA myself. I agree that there is a huge NRI population that can relate to only K3G type of movies. However there are a bunch of us who do get excited about movies like Khosla.., OLLO. Manorama … A Wednesday etc… And I promise you that the head-count of this bunch is definitely growing.
Also, life at this end of the world is not as boring and limited to shuttling between home and mall. Otherwise PFC would not have dedicated NRI visitors like me.
Some of us are extremely passionate about good cinema and would die for an opportunity to be part of projects like OLLO (Oh! well, I am a dreamer
@Madhuri : I so agree with you.
. My life, for one, isn’t limited to mall and home. I have a feeling that the people who complain about life in the US are the same ones that go and watch movies like K3G 
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- There is an huge audience here that can be tapped for good movies too. There needs to be an effort from the film fraternity as well. Like Dibakar says in the discussion, that Slumdog Millionaire had 500 free shows. Yahaan 50 dekhar dekho….. and not even FREE shows.
- Not everyone who is an NRI is devoid of LIFE
@ Debashri “Not everyone who is an NRI is devoid of LIFE
. My life, for one, isn’t limited to mall and home”
the two places i dont visit often are Mall and Home
@ OM : That’s a good one!
Is this the best thing to have come out of PFC?
I think so.
thanks.
@ Debashri & Madhuri
May your tribe increase more and more
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Nah Debashri ur not rambling here, what you have said is 100% sensible.
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Actually long time back i used to write for a NRI portal on Bollywood. And when i bought the same topic, that NRI audiences generally watch the K3G kinda movies, i had to face a huge storm of protest.
And to make matters worse, since i am based in India i had to face comments of “You bloody Indians” to “COme to US, we will show you”. And i got a mail from the editors saying that I should not write on topics, which hurt NRI feelings, LOL.
But yaar, its ok, i have enuf NRI friends and cousins, and i know there are many like you, who dont necessarily think the same.
So more power to u here. I believe that women are the best agents of change. So go girls go, hum tumhare saath hai.
@ Ratnakar… tho humara kya hoga? na ghar ke na ghaat ke? lol
@ Om
Arre huzoor hum to hamesha na ghar ke na ghaat ke hi the.
kya banda hai yaaaar…I think I’m in love…:)
Thanks for this audio interview. I like Dibakar’s confidence and candidness. Stay honest to yourself man!
Dibakar is definitely confident, apparently very candid but one NEVER would get to know what might have transpired between him and the producers, w.r.t the liberties he has taken, the calculations he has done, the compromises they would have reached. For interviews never give you the true picture EVER; make no mistake this man is no fool not to look for his conveniences. That is where he balances (or rather tries to) the cliches of regressive cinema and his seemingly modern thought, and of course he excels at that. No question about that.
A few things he says (”five-legged cow in a mela” was good!) marketing strategies are real gems of course and they hit the nail on the head.
I would prefer more films to articulate thoughts. Great films were not necessarily backed by verbose sessions all times. Any day I will trust the film more than the filmmaker. (thanks RGV there!) and yes, going by the two films so far my trust seems vindicated.
oye manjeetay…its a damn sexy interview! congrats to u n ur team. and finally here is one director who is honest n candid. m sick of otherwise the same old gyaan-guni ones. read big b’s blog everyday n its more n more of gyan everday. kuch zyada hua to attack those who write or say anything nasty about him.
……..if PFC is my wanking………..this is the best cumshot i had
…………thanks a lot guys….maza aa gaya……i am listening to it fourth time now (ghar se school-school se ghar NRI hun:( )
and Dibakar!!!!!! great movie man!!!
saw Amal few days back….another film set in Delhi……..the director seems like a pretty cool guy……..get him on PFC!!!
too good man. ehsaan hai aapka…waiting for more insights lik this …thanks manjeet,amit & karan. cheers!
oye dibakar! dibakar oye!
will u produce my phillum oye…???
how do one approach thes producers b**** C***
oye dibakar! dibakar oye!
will u produce my phillum oye…???
how do one approach thes producers b**** C***
superb! bande mein dum hai…mindblowing!!!
hey it didnt end like a proper interview…bye bye n all…banani padhti hai seel out film…yahi tha naa end mein???
There seems to be no audio file. Has the link been removed??
Manjeet – can I request for re-posting the audio file / alternate link.
Thanks
Manjeetey…its so candid and so fresh…too much…many thanx for this!!!
yeh lo….now, Amitji is being compared to Dibakar. Democracy rules!! and the people who read his Blog everyday…literally everyday…find it gyan and they don’t like gyan…why everyday then? quit…
Pl chodo yaar…he’s the same old Amitabh whom we all used to love…now, he isn’t bad either…
And don’t get me wrong…Dibakar is a talent to look out for…hes excellent!!
But, the comparison on ‘gyan’ irks me…
To everyone on this link – this audio interview sounds a bit too self congratulatory and whiney to me. Not good. A freewheeling conversation between friends, when posing as a mouthpiece for one person, does change the perspective, I realise that now. The comments I made about the Patels and the Tam Techie from IIT are brainless, thoughtless, insensitive and infantile. I have never lived in the US and my knowledge about NRI cine going habits are completely based on hearsay and presumptions. The first part about the technique, stylistic devices, plot structure, casting, dialogues etc. are good, that’s what film enthusiasts need to know, but the other stuff – as I said before – brainless. Santosh Kumar is entirely right in submitting that a film maker should make films and not talk. Also he’s justified in questioning the intentions of someone who employs verbosity in place of any real insights. The new Indian cinema of the new Indian reality has to find a new audience – and Debashri, film makers like us have people like you to thank forever. But there’s an economic and cultural logic to why a Shahrukh Khan starrer will earn ten times as much a Lucky ever will and new film makers with a new vision will ignore this fundamental fact at their peril. Yes, it’s a regressive jungle out there but no one forced us to make the kind of films we do – it was our choice, shit happens, and we can’t complain. We have to press on and make our kind of films at whatever cost – preferably as cheap as possible without compromising the vision. I seem to be complaining about this and that in the interview and whatever the reasons it’s not entirely justified – because I wouldn’t even be here peddling my bullshit to you if someone hadn’t put up hard cash to finance Lucky and then market it as best as possible. This is the best it gets and slowly we need to make it better. The new Indian cinema portraying the new Indian reality has to find a truly world audience to survive in the long run. And the big budget Bollydream film is here to stay for a long, long time and that’s the way it is. These two contrary truths have to be looked in the eye, accepted and taken action on. The rest is a tired guy sounding off not really worth a link! ☺
@rahul mitra….wudnt like to take this discusion on differnt tangent but since u comentd so. wud luv to quit but its occupational hazard! dont hav much choice. not sure if he will ever speak up…ever take a stand…ever make his political stand clear…its all oh-la-la…n yes its democracy!
@admins, I hope the file isnt removed anytime soon… Any chance of that happening?
Seems to me like you are too ruthless on Amitabh factor…Hope you mellow down a bit
…think more fimli…
I wish to end here, anything else would be stated as ‘uncalled for’…
Dibakar, if you are listening:
I understand your reservations about this “interview” but the reason we (atleast I) seem to love it so much is because it’s a candid conversation, so honest that it’s unheard of. If it were another interview, it would still have been good, but this one reaches new heights. I don’t know about others but this makes me respect you more because an honest filmmaker will make an honest film. Even his best cumshot sellout film will have seeds of honesty. As far as your comments on Patels, NRIs etc…no big deal. I’m an Indian American and I know USA is way more exciting than you think it is, but I didn’t take offence to what you said.
Dibakar,
Me too, for sure did not take any offense to your NRI comment. The objective of my response was to let you know that there is a good bunch of us who do appreciate good cinema so please do not discard the huge potential there is in marketing your films in countries like USA, UK.
Keep making good films.
A very insightful and frank interview. Don’t recollect when I last listened in like this. We should have more of these with our exclusive Authors.
Great stuff. Good to have a conversation where a director can analyse his film and craft entirely on societal parameters and points of reference. I think all of us heard it in one go, and that’s saying a lot!
And Dibakar,
Have someone from your team get in touch with Mirchi, Delhi. They have been desperately looking for your number for some time now.
brilliant. i dont think i have ever listened to an audio interview of 1hr 20 min, without taking a break. awesome. must listen to all…
Absolutely loved the whole conversation. There’s so much you can learn about film (and much more!) just by listening to 80 mins of meaningful insight. Amazing!! On par with the post-Black Friday Q&A with Anurag Kashyap that was shared long back.
About the whole NRI comment, sometimes, I’m not sure what exactly these NRI’s want! You give them SRK in K3G, they lap it up. But when you give them SRK as a hockey coach, they shun him (I’ve even been to a show of Chak De India which was probably half full, first weekend. I know CDI’s not a great example since it’s regressive and all but nonetheless). I’ve been to a screening of Mumbai Meri Jaan in NY where I was the only one (sirf ek) in the theater. In my opinion, they’re as unpredictable as the audience in India.
Pratik!
How was Chak De India regressive?
PS: I am no Shahrukh fan.
No offense to you whatsoever Pratik, but I feel this word “regressive” is being over abused now! Then in retrospect every nice movie we have enjoyed in the past is regressive. You put some fare of the past under a microscope, regressive cells will be floating all over.
please aap sell out film ke chakkar me mat padho….suv rehne do …..chothi suv se kaam chala lo(petrol kam khayegi)…faede me rahoge.
Pradeep Sarkar ki parineeta khoob bhaayi.
Laaga chunri me daag ke saath ve muh ke bal gire…. shaayad wo unki sell out film honi thi…
aap apne tarah ki film banaiyye!!! hum aapke saath hain.
One thing is for sure… there will be comedy in it always I feel. Aapka andaaz hi kuch aisa hai.
Saari comedy ke saath tragedy dikha dete hain system ki. I loved OLLO for it.
need to see it a couple more times I think.
@ Santosh
I was only referring to Dibakar mentioning that it was ‘mathematically crafted.’ (agreed, I plead guilty to abusing the word ‘regressive’). My whole point was that SRK starring in a movie like CDI is not that enticing for NRI’s to come watch on the big screen.
I loved the experience of CDI, I genuinely feel it’s a well-made film. I’m no fan of SRK too, but he did well in CDI.
@ Pratik – I don’t know where you saw CDI, but I saw CDI thrice in AZ (in two different theatres) and it was full every time. And people LOVED it! Same with ‘Gandhi, My Father’. I think a lot also depends on where the movie is screened. Sometimes its a bekaar Dollar theatre where people are more interested in the blockbusters. Fortunately, some people in Arizona have tied up with a couple of Harkins and they screen good movies there.
@ Dbashri..you AZ as in Arizona?..yaar i am in phoenix..if you and Sarang ever come here again..party on me
Not intending to annoy Dibankar, but this ones better than the movie!
Parth.. I too had a similar reaction after listening to this audio. On Dibakar’s Sell Out Concept, I don’t agree with Dibakar who claims OLLO is not his SOF. Why has he made a hero out of a thief and made audience sypmpathised with him. Just because his life was more eventful and hence more saleable. Otherwise Lucky’s elder brother too grew up in the same environment and brought up by the same father could become a banker. Even his younger brother got smarter but not a thief. It looks like Dibakar has never been robbed of his hard earned money.
Hey Dibakar
Awesome interview! No question of taking offense. For once, it was good to hear a director speak out his mind without any reservations. It was interesting the way you made one of your interviewers figure out the reason ‘why’ Indian cinema is the way it is. We all seem to crib, but we rarely try to find out why.
Haven’t seen your movie yet, will do soon. Hope to see a movie by you with the conviction of the first 25 minutes of OLLO before you’re corrupted by a desire for a larger SUV, farm house and beach house…
Thanks
Saurabh
Apart from da profanity used,,, which could be avoided,,over all interview was good ur vision and concern is worth appreciation, profanity for me is like justifying SK’s Bandit queens as aesthetic requirement of the script and all futile excuses if that was the case there was no curses or foul langauges used in Satya but did that make you feel the da movie is not realistic or made you not dread the characters,,, medium like cinema is a very huge platform where you define the rules for audience honest dedicated effort will never get unnoticed ,,if not monetary benefit,,but other appreciation,,,whats u r expecting is another topis altogether,,,US mein kya hotha hai,, woh log kya karthey hai come on GUY grown why this blind and stupid liking for nothing thats US,,, u make hindi movies n u dont watch them,,in ur spare u watch american movies,,ya phir internation movie there r lotta of crap being made in that circuit as well,,sirf foreign lagauge hai festival mein aaya hai isee movie accchi nahi ho jaathi hai,,as for the intervieiwers,,, in this discussion they r the same who did similar thin with BF with AK in the wanna be in complete AWE of the intervieweee well point taken accepted Dibakar was very candid bu were the intervieweees????no they reminded me of those three bufoons in sholay in the kithne aadmi they wala sequence specially other 2 guy (other than Viju Khote) who r in so much awe or intimidated by Gabbar thay dont know whether they shud laugh when gabbar has bursted in to laughter,, confused ,,,yah haaal hai inka,,,using ….da movie was good amazing i dont belong to delhi may be thats why i liked the movie more ,,even before the trailer the PLOT of da movie is more or less made public by media and film magazine n after a plaot bgin made publich still when the audience watches it they subcons forget eveyrthing all the presumtions they had made thats what a good movie is all about the treatment, the perfomance, the casting n other technicalities of coourse some lows form the movie which i can remember as of now is all the scenes when dollys mums there one where she ask for snadwich maker n other the dining table sequence,,also some scenes looked repititive,, when i say that am not talking bout twists but u feeel things r not moving,,,khichtha hai kahin kahin but i loved the non linear method of story telling,,,best part of the movie i was telling my freind,, i did not knew the director has an AD film BG, but after watching u definitly get the feeelin da fella ddoes come form AD world that what i told my friends (FilmFreakGang-)like in an AD its the performance for few minutes so it has to perfect,, it seems thats how he achived such great per from all of them,,, amzing all the new faces were perf like veterans,,, ………….
Dibakar’s work in OLLO was more developed than even KKG. He seems to be a filmmaker to look out for. A modern day Basu Chatterjee/Hrishikesh Mukherjee with a more non-traditional, interactive platter by which I mean the following – just as the internet requires you to keep your eye on many parts of the screen you need to keep your eyes on many portions of the screen in Dibakar’s film so that you dont miss all the details.
Very humanistic, kind and idealistic film – OLLO – Lucky was a true blue idealist/hero. Congrats, if possible, lets have your personal email id.
O and saw the Face the Review – unfortunately the person who was MCing it was not very incisive to say the least – a pity as this show could have been a true eyeopener for mature film understanding.
Great job Manjeet! an excellent discussion. i wouldn’t agree with everything Dibakar says about the ‘other’ cinema – call it emotional manipulation or ’shag value’ as he does. Some films also involve you emotionally till they make you ‘cry’ but yes, ’silence’ as a reaction to a film is rare and should have its space. so surely, dibakar, more strength to your films.
@Debashri
I’m in Cleveland, OH. I don’t know how come people weren’t as pepped up for CDI as other SRK movies. I found it intriguing too. And this was a decent theater too (staircase seating and all), part of a multiplex. Gandhi My Father didn’t attract a big crowd either.
@ Pratik – Pata nahin yaar! Kuchh keh nahin sakte hamaare desis ka bhi… Dibakar is correct in a way when he says desis don’t have a life here. There are so many people we see who will keep grudging about the kind of life that is led here. They say things like,”Their value system is not the same as ours”. I feel like asking them sometimes that whether our desi value system teaches them to go around with goris and drop them when a bride is found back home! People like them, go back home and say ke American ladkiyon ka character kharaab hai…. They won’t watch our films and say ke Hindi films are trash. Somehow, I guess, I am an oddity
and fortunately for me, so is Sarang.
@ OM – Sure, we’ll meet up when we go to AZ the next time. We own a home there, so we have to go. Let me know if there is an email or phone number we can contact you at.
Did you, by chance, attend the Shyam Benegal retrospective Tempe? We need more stuff like that….
This conversation with Dibakar just opened my eyes to so many things that I didn’t know. Amazing! Really, we should get together to support this kind of cinema.
@ Debashri.. you can contact me at
cinemaismypassion(@)gmail(dot)com
@Debashri
Tell me about it. Those kinda desis are everywhere! I have a hard time convincing people to come for Indian movies at a very impressive international film festival here in Cleveland. Kuchh rona karenge aur bahana maarke ghar pe baithhke computer pe SIK ki pirated copy dekhenge.
I too don’t think Dibakar is wrong when he says desis here have no life. But there are exceptions (there always are).
Debashri and Pratik…i think by doing that we are classifying the whole desi community as one..where as from all the discussion that i am seeing is of desis in america and into IT…which i believe is less than 20% of desi population in ammrikaa…
apun kitni jaldi genarilise karte nai? shayad apna yehi value system hain..eheheh…j/k
@ OM – Nahin, apna frustration hai yeh
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Debashri, Prathik, good discussion here. But one thing, when you refer to desis here, are u referring to all( ABCD, NRI, FOB) or just the ABCD, Green Card Holders segment.
Also regarding CDI, i think from what i heard, Pakistanis, Bangladeshi’s make up a large part of the SRK fan crowd, and they wud prefer him in the Raj-Rahul roles. CDI did not appeal to them, because it was more focussed on India.
But anyway care a damn, about why Desis did not like CDI or not. The fact is the movie was a huge success in India. And for me success is not just in box office collections, it is the impact the movie makes among the junta. The fact that people started to use Chak De , to cheer for India when it was playing cricket or hockey, shows that the movie made the impact where it was supposed to.
IMHO, for me i think the importance of the overseas market is vastly overrated. And also considering the way the dollar and pound have been going down South, yeh dollar-pound vaala argument is kinda losing its sheen.
Lo main apna baat bol diya, now ready for anything.
@ratnakar.. ” think the importance of the overseas market is vastly overrated”
try telling this to phoenixnu…lol
I completely agree to what Ratnakar says…avunu…
Dibakar sir… I saw RNBDJ.. It is going to bomb at the box-office.. We cant describe this shit.. OLLO will surely pick up from mon..
“karjat mein farm house nahi hai oye benchod”! mast interview!!
Stop patronizing folks who genuinely enjoy mainstream commercial films.
There are fairly complex reasons for why people like what they do and they do not need to apologize for their tastes. Everything cannot and should not be reduced to a simplistic class narrative.
If I am awestruck by Tarkovsky’s Nostalghia then I am aesthetically evolved, and if I also enjoy Coolie No. 1 then I’m ignorant scum?
Baaki sab kuchh theek hai, yehi bas chutiyapey waali baat ki hai tum logon ne. Agar inhi slums aur gaaon mein rehne waaley audience ka taste itna perverted ho chuka hai to phir Richa ke driver aur projector waalon ki rai ko tumne itni ahmiat kyon di?
You know their appreciation counts because it’s not mediated through a derivative lens based on circular references to films (it always amuses me when some folks seem congenitally unable to related films to real life experiences – rather every frame is a reference to a scene in another film).
Oh, and speaking of lower middle class heroes – what do you think Govinda was playing in Coolie No. 1 and Jamai Raja? Also, Anil Kapoor’s Munna in Tezaab was not lower-middle class at all. He came from a solidly middle class family who takes to crime.
Dibakar comes off as very defensive…
Movie banaya…chala nahi chala is obviously not in your hands.
but if you want to make a movie and make money off it then to call people questioning its lack of story as sufferers of mental pornography afflicting the indian film scene is childish…
@Ratnakar – Indians cheer for hockey?? Now that’s a news!!
@ Tejas-74
Yeah in some parts of India, especially Punjab, Haryana, Hockey is big.
Also when CDI came, there was quite a sizeable turnout for the Asia Cup(Hockey).
Was reading thru the comments. Thoda off tangent question:
Why everytime one praises SRK, they have to put the disclaimer that they are not his fan.
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Apologies for going off-topic in my previous post.
Is there a transcript available for this interview. My audio does not work these days.
Ok, read “Dulhe Raja” instead of “Jamai Raja” in my comment.
I’ve been mulling over a lot of the stuff in the interview and here are the things that bother me.
1. Dibakar admits that he doesn’t see too many Hindi films and yet has no qualms about slagging off Hindi films en masse.
2. Comparing the audience for mainstream Hindi cinema with the audience for non-mainstream alternative cinema in other countries.
Can we please stop doing this ad nauseaum. It annoys me no end when someone watches an Iranian film by Panahi or Makhmalbaf and says – oh, these sort of films will not get made in India because the audience is not ready for it.
Excuse me, folks like Panahi or Makhmalbaf are not mainstream Iranian directors. Their films aren’t box office hits.
What are the films that are box office hits in Iran? Films like Sagkoshi and Mim mesle Madar. Made by Beizai and Mollagholipour respectively who are unknown on the international art house circuit.
Folks like Kiarostami and Panahi and Majidi get critical acclaim worldwide just as many Indian directors have consistently won critical acclaim for their work. This does not mean that the Iranian audience is somehow more receptive to non-mainstream cinema than we are.
OMG..a week away from internet..and chaos hits PFC..cant wait to listen to the audio piece..
gr8 talk Dibakar!!! apni agli movie NRI’s par banane ki soch rahe ho?
@ratnakar, i agree with your point on why K3G will run but CDI will not run..we have good number of people from pak bangladesh who wont like movies focused on india…(par american deshpremi ki movie bina hichak jijak ke dekhthe hain
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@ dewi …me too like iranian movies for their earthy concept and executions like the “children of heaven’ or the movie in which few girls want to watch a football match in tehran…thanks to world movies from UTV …i am getting to watch lots of movies like this
Interesting piece of conversation. But i have to agree with the second point in Dewi’s post… u cant compare a country’s mainstream audience with the non-mainstream ones from another place.
And as much as I Loved OLLO, and would like to see more such films by Indian film makers, I’d also love to watch the usual masala flick once in a while, for the simple reason that most of us watch the emotional porn once in a while!
What I feel is that, there should be a balance between the two types of films, and both should be given equal importance… but for that you’ll have to find equal audience for both streams. varna har saal 10 random films aate hain aur 2 ya 3 sexy films bante hain
Jodha Akbar, Jaane Tu, Singh Is Kinng, Bachna Ae Haseeno.. whtever…and i’m not even considering the chutyaap like Drona and Kidnaap and Golmaal 2 and Karzzzzzzzzzzzzzz etc.
then there were Mumbai Meri Jaan and A Wednesday and OLLO etc, which were actually interesting to watch because whatever the story in the end its the way the film’s aspects have been handled that is to be considered, IMO.
most of the film maker, jinki pahli film ko tareef milti hai…they suffer from “now I know everything” syndrome…same thing happened with Mr.Dibakar in “Oye”..He thought his characters worked in khosla la ghosla..so he repeated same Delhi’s rustic flavor and same method of film making in “oye lucky”…lekin Dibakar saheb bhool gaye ki in kkg..all the characters were tied up with a strong story..thats why OLLO is failed to get the big applause..If people are saying there is everything..except story..they are right..good characters are like fancy car’s..but you need a smooth road to take your car forward…Dibakar is a talented man..i hope he will learn from the experience of “Oye Lucky”…
This audio is one of the best things to happen to PFC. Dibakar, this audio has made the entire PFC readers (except few readers, who suffers from indigestion for any non-SRK staple diet) ask one question, ‘Sir ji aapke charan kahan hai’!
I remember, someone leaked a video of Russel Peters on internet, and trust me, that was the single biggest thing that happened to him! No I am not saying, this audio is going to sell your film – but it surely brought us/you closer to you/us!
And BTW, you and Anurag Kashyap need to bring Abhay Deol on PFC too. He belongs here!
hey man can u get me Dibakar’s office address and very good work.
@Rohit, Dibakar’s office address and very good work is secretly mentioned in Khosla ka Ghosla and Oye Lucky… If you “really” want to find the office address and very good work, watch both the movies “VERY” carefully.
bollywoodplusplus,
Abhay deol is already on PFC ..check his diary here
http://passionforcinema.com/author/abhay/
he is one of the most intelligent directors in India.. hopefully people grow upto this level of cinema.. please make the directors like adi chopra, karan johars, RGV’s, and let them get some brains
haha i heard it over a span of 9 hrs. the end was awesome lol
he seems full of himself at places, doesn’t he? it was an interesting hear tho, no doubt.
yaar…thanks…phir baat karna dibakar se…superfkngood
superb.period
Extremely funny and open-hearted! Keep ‘em coming…
cool
Dibakar, why delhi mirchi guys cant get ur number….are u inaccessible to media …here in bombay during OLLO pre release days I hardly found you speaking to the print or internet…(i dont watch TV so dont abt that)…one smalllll interview probably inside HT Cafe and thats it.
Dont know, that was a conscious effort from the marketing team or u r not just interested….open up with media na….
i agree with the above statement. the movie was not promoted well. bad work dibakar and utv.
jisko oye lucky nahi samajh aayi … he/she doesnt deserve hindi cinema nemore
lucky had even stronger characters around him .. bengali , gogi bhai , sippa all these were the pillars the movie was built on … that was the story people .. story of a boy who belongs to some tilak nagar/ suurounding area of delhi … making water coolers … develops into a thug along with a friend .. 3 paresh rawals were depicting a common fatherly figure he relied on at diff points in his life and how all 3 ditched him one after the other
did nebody pay attention to what that saath wali aunty tell archana pooran singh ….
range achhi hai tumhare bhai ki .. .variety hai
–sippa’s … chhad de mainu ooye
–bengali …. gogi bhai badi mehnat lag rhi hai badam vadaam khao weak ho gye ho
–dolly …. scent bada sweet hai .. old spice lagaya hai
–lucky’s friend … lucky yaar syllabus mat change kar maarne de yaar … aaja mera button dabaja …. and the rest
im sure if smone has noticed everything mentioned above .. they sure have missed how precisely the last 15 minutes of the movie have been shot.. how precisely dibakar has depicted those haryanvi policemen …
..oh tera bhala ho
..aage saale number banane..
..bhai main tera saga thanedaar to ho na
inspector devender singh naam hai mera
..teri tenti se pakad ke tha leyan ge
man i just need 5 minutes to thank dibakar for giving such a lovely movie … i actually make people watch oye lucky and khosla ka ghosla
both movies have shown dilliwale equally well and are still so diff from each other