Since the day I started reading PFC…many times i have found various people giving contrast review of the same film..well it’s obvious because it’s a matter of perception or POV etc etc…I’m just trying to make this excercise simple. We have been using this chart during my ad agency days to judge our ideas. This time I’ve altered it with respect to films in html. Lots of times we give rating to a film or an idea or a person “some no. out of 10″. But it’s not defined that what these 10 nos. stand for….so here is a name of every single no. with its definition.
This table is useful for not only critics or reviewers but also filmmakers and scriptwriters. A person can judge the calibre of his idea or work with respect to these nos. This rating system is not bound with the kind of publicity and business a film does. It only judges the script, performance and execution of a film. I hope it will be helpful to all the members of PFC worldwide and oz if you need my help giving a space to this chart on PFC…you are welcome. You will find my ratings by the end of this chart.
Note : This chart is Internet Explorer compatible…it might loose its alignment while viewing on firefox or netscape.
01 DAMAGING
This work is worse than a waste of time. It is damaging to both the producer and the audience. The filmmaker would be better of staying at home.
02 WASTEFUL
This work is a waste of time. People will actually avoid it. The filmmaker has wasted both the audience’s time and his own resources.
03 BORING
Both the script and filming are ordinary. The audience will tuneout before it’s finished.
04 PREDICTABLE
This is soundly executed but bland. People have seen it all before and will anticipate the climax before the film ends.
05 COMPETENT
This story is told in an interesting way or it is well executed. People will give it time to complete the message.
06 REWARDING
This film will get noticed. People will feel rewarded having spent time watching it. Its impact will linger longer than the duration of the film.
07 INNOVATIVE
This is an innovative work and the best example of its catagory in the industry. Its refreshing message and execution will ensure that people would want to see it again.
08 INDUSTRY
LEADING
This is the best work in this catagory in the world. It leads the industry and people will take time to rethink their perception about the film and the genre
09 WORLD
CLASS
This competes with the very best scripts in the world. People are talking about it in their own time. It will make the film, director and banner famous.
10 WORLD
BEATING
This sets a new standard in the world of cinema. It is an entierly new script that is highly involving. The audience will spend time exploring and playing with the story. It is being talked about worldwide.
Here is a casual rating example from my perception….no offence…no arguments…
01. Damaging : Films by Deepak Tijori or the kind of director who concentrate more on their heroines asses than their film. 02. Wasteful : Films by Vikram Bhatt like ‘Elan’ ‘Jurm’ ‘Aitbar’ ‘Red’ etc… 03. Boring : Films by Guddu Dhanoa, Harry Baweja, Rahul Rawail or Darshan brothers 04. Predictable : Films by YRF, Karan Johar, Kunal Kohli or Rakesh Roshan 05. Competent : Films by Anurag Basu, Pradeep Sorkar, Nagesh Kukunoor…films like Khosla ka Ghosle, Mixed doubes, Bheja fry etc. 06. Rewarding : Films by Vishal Bharadwaj, Anurag Kashyap, Old RGV, Maniratnam, Sanjay Leela Bhasali, Mira Nair etc. 07. Innovative : Films by Rajkumaar Hirani, Rakeysh Mehra(RDB), Farhan Akhtar(DCH), Ashutosh Gowarikar etc. 08. Market Leading : All Martin Scorcese, Speilberg, Alejandro González Iñárritu, Aronofsky kinda fliks 09. World Class : Films like Godfather I-II, Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, City of God, etc. 10. World Beating : LOTR all parts, Crouching Tiger, Sin City and most of fresh technique or special effects used in global blockbusters
ashish, dont quite agree with everything. as in films,everyone has a pov and they judge the movies by their ratings. similarly ratings do hav a different pov by everyone.
You are right Phoenixnu…but its about being a film savvy or a rookie…as I have said that “We have been using this chart in ad agency to judge our ideas”…there were many ad savvy guys like you who never need to follow any rating system or anything bcoz they had their own definition…there were also some who used to keep only from 6-10 part of the chart…and the rest learners used to follow the whole.
So it’s all about what appeals to you and it’s quite possible that people who have their own definition won’t follow it…it’s just like a formula book which says “Film rating made easy”
haha… you have started a big debate! lots of problems with your “examples”!!!
let’s not systematize things. film is not an exact science. you have put guddu dhanoa before vikram bhatt and farhan before vishal bharadwaj!!! not many will agree!:d
How is this rating system credible? The list has Indian Movies upto a certain level and then it’s all International cinema? What if the ratings were only meant to be local.
And how is a Nagesh Kukunoor movie only competent but not rewarding or innovative.
POV’s apart and I am not blaming the author for this but where is the logic?
How is someone’s perception equatable to another. We have genre’s and then you classify and rate but a generic rating system… nah!
Since u said this chart is being used in ad agencies for judging ideas..
Whereas films also start with an idea but obviously it is far greater than advertisements.
Here is what seen is star ratings hey not that film stars.
Sometime critics also award a film with
Sorry this rating system is just full of holes. To begin with, a rating system that cites Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon as its example of world-beating highest calibre cinema, and that too ahead of Godfather just cannot be taken seriously! That I say on a purely personal level.
And viewing a film is a subjective experience. You cannot draw lines like this to slot it.
I think you mixed up #9 & #10.
Pulp Fiction & Godfather should be in 10 by any standards…esp yours…
“This sets a new standard in the world of cinema. It is an entierly new script that is highly involving. The audience will spend time exploring and playing with the story. It is being talked about worldwide.”
I think Pulp Fiction & Godfather are the best examples of that.
i kind of like the system. it’s needed to be tweaked, and i do not agree with some of the examples – but, it has a basics pat and can be used as a basis for any rating exercise. so ashish, you don’t believe that we have produced one movie till date that could rate above 7, eh? not even g.v.iyer’s and satyajit ray’s? i wud have to disagree, mate
guys guys guys!!!…well this is not any chapter which i have written in bible of cinema…neither my rating examples are like “IMDB top 250″.
I have been using this chart and i find it quite useful for myself…i just gave a try to adapt it for films and share it with you guys…am not saying that it cant have holes, just like law…Its just a trial, not a syllabus forced on anyone…if it appeals to anyone he can try or simply avoid it…
@ravptor: brother perception is bound with genre…its possible that you give a director different rating than mine with respect to this chart…and its not about any specific director…u must be NK fanatic but I may not…his Iqbal and Dor were quite “inspired” and the HB-2 was a puke for me…
Many must be praising “The Departed” but somewhere in Anurags post I read that it
Ashish,the problem with kaagaz ke phool,pyaasa etc is that while they are brilliant movies,it is kinda hard to digest(the stories)now because it isn’t contemporary.That way,Do Bigha Zameen even though presenting a different era still gives me goosebumps.
Kaagaz Ke Phool and Pyaasa, though exceptional films, present a very pessimistic point of view that tends to view society in general as opportunistic. That kind of sentiment doesn’t seem to appeal to audiences today in general, who at large prefer to believe that world is a good place. Nothing wrong with that.
Vijay, Pyaasa was not Pessimistic but Extremistic..
In the climax, Your namesake Vijay (of Pyasa) walks out from the society with Waheeda, following the lines of ghalib..
Baazecha-e-atfaal hai duniya mere aage
Hota hai shab.o.roz tamasha mere aage
Anurag Kashyap
Abhay Deol
Dibakar Banerjee
Hansal Mehta
Khalid Mohamed
Kundan Shah
Anish Kuruvilla
Jaideep Verma
Manish Gupta
Navdeep Singh
Bhavani Iyer
D. Santosh
Onir
Ashvin Kumar
Ramu Ramanathan
Sudhir Mishra
Pankaj Advani
Revathy
Saurabh Shukla
Shilpa Shukla
Sujoy Ghosh
Suparn Verma
Santosh Sivan
Shashank Ghosh
Shivajee
Pavan Kaul
Partho Sen-Gupta
Prroshant Naryannan
Sam Langoria
Satish Kasetty
wow wow wow
That is brilliant rating system.
BRAVO!
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ashish, dont quite agree with everything. as in films,everyone has a pov and they judge the movies by their ratings. similarly ratings do hav a different pov by everyone.
You are right Phoenixnu…but its about being a film savvy or a rookie…as I have said that “We have been using this chart in ad agency to judge our ideas”…there were many ad savvy guys like you who never need to follow any rating system or anything bcoz they had their own definition…there were also some who used to keep only from 6-10 part of the chart…and the rest learners used to follow the whole.
So it’s all about what appeals to you and it’s quite possible that people who have their own definition won’t follow it…it’s just like a formula book which says “Film rating made easy”
haha… you have started a big debate! lots of problems with your “examples”!!!
let’s not systematize things. film is not an exact science. you have put guddu dhanoa before vikram bhatt and farhan before vishal bharadwaj!!! not many will agree!:d
Cy..that is why I have written…”example from my perception
How is this rating system credible? The list has Indian Movies upto a certain level and then it’s all International cinema? What if the ratings were only meant to be local.
And how is a Nagesh Kukunoor movie only competent but not rewarding or innovative.
POV’s apart and I am not blaming the author for this but where is the logic?
How is someone’s perception equatable to another. We have genre’s and then you classify and rate but a generic rating system… nah!
i can agree until rating 4 with examples, after that it depends on individual tastes, perceptions and repeat viewing…
and if you average the collections of films categorized from 4th to 7th, it’s inversely proportional to B.O, i mean on average
Since u said this chart is being used in ad agencies for judging ideas..
Whereas films also start with an idea but obviously it is far greater than advertisements.
Here is what seen is star ratings hey not that film stars.
Sometime critics also award a film with
Sorry this rating system is just full of holes. To begin with, a rating system that cites Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon as its example of world-beating highest calibre cinema, and that too ahead of Godfather just cannot be taken seriously! That I say on a purely personal level.
And viewing a film is a subjective experience. You cannot draw lines like this to slot it.
to b fair he did say..
“Here is a casual rating example from my perception
I think you mixed up #9 & #10.
Pulp Fiction & Godfather should be in 10 by any standards…esp yours…
“This sets a new standard in the world of cinema. It is an entierly new script that is highly involving. The audience will spend time exploring and playing with the story. It is being talked about worldwide.”
I think Pulp Fiction & Godfather are the best examples of that.
mast fundoo concept hai baap! i like your examples.
i kind of like the system. it’s needed to be tweaked, and i do not agree with some of the examples – but, it has a basics pat and can be used as a basis for any rating exercise. so ashish, you don’t believe that we have produced one movie till date that could rate above 7, eh? not even g.v.iyer’s and satyajit ray’s? i wud have to disagree, mate
guys guys guys!!!…well this is not any chapter which i have written in bible of cinema…neither my rating examples are like “IMDB top 250″.
I have been using this chart and i find it quite useful for myself…i just gave a try to adapt it for films and share it with you guys…am not saying that it cant have holes, just like law…Its just a trial, not a syllabus forced on anyone…if it appeals to anyone he can try or simply avoid it…
@ravptor: brother perception is bound with genre…its possible that you give a director different rating than mine with respect to this chart…and its not about any specific director…u must be NK fanatic but I may not…his Iqbal and Dor were quite “inspired” and the HB-2 was a puke for me…
Many must be praising “The Departed” but somewhere in Anurags post I read that it
..am happy with the suggestions am getting to tweak it…keep shooting!!
Ashish,the problem with kaagaz ke phool,pyaasa etc is that while they are brilliant movies,it is kinda hard to digest(the stories)now because it isn’t contemporary.That way,Do Bigha Zameen even though presenting a different era still gives me goosebumps.
Kaagaz Ke Phool and Pyaasa, though exceptional films, present a very pessimistic point of view that tends to view society in general as opportunistic. That kind of sentiment doesn’t seem to appeal to audiences today in general, who at large prefer to believe that world is a good place. Nothing wrong with that.
Vijay, Pyaasa was not Pessimistic but Extremistic..
In the climax, Your namesake Vijay (of Pyasa) walks out from the society with Waheeda, following the lines of ghalib..
Baazecha-e-atfaal hai duniya mere aage
Hota hai shab.o.roz tamasha mere aage
Ashish,
mere naam bhai, good read.
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Agar kuch interesting hota hai to yaha likhunga.
Bhai log, bechare AsSh ko jeene do. Indicative aur exaustive mein kuch to farak hota hoga.
Aagr kisi ko hindi samajh nahi aati to G**** marao, subtitles nahi likhunga ;-)