HULLA - bol
Compelled by Jaideep’s post i went to see Hulla. Before going for the movie i read every review i could find and even the various comments on his post. I told myself the film can not be this bad. He is the guy who wrote “Local” and he can’t write something so unintelligent or non-entertaining. I remember him from when he interviewed me for his docu on “Indian Ocean” and few other times. This was one passionate man who would go to any length for what he believed in. I saw the film and it saddens me that people did not see in the film what i saw. It was so there, after a long time i saw a film where you saw the author, someone who observes, someone who had things to say. Oh yes it wasn’t a perfect film, it had its own weaknesses in terms of few side performances and casting but what a script, and it was the script the critics have been trashing. A bloody courageous movie to make and an important one, but i guess everyone went only to laugh and that too in wrong places and probably just got the comedy and missed everything else.
Well to each his own, i preferred the film over wednesday. Why ? it wasn’t populist. Nothing wrong in being populist but then nothing wrong in not being populist either. The film had something to say all through the film and not just last twenty minutes which most films have been getting right nowdays. What Hulla could not get was to connect with the audience( spoilt,indulged,entertained indian audience) was last twenty minutes. It does not offer a solution and leaves it open. What no review saw in the first place was that here Sushant’s Raj puri was not the protagnist and Rajat Kapoor’s “Janardan” was not the antagonist. They were just two characters at different ends of a problem. Both right and both wrong. Infact Janardan comes across a more likable and mature character than Raj puri. The film is about how differences exist and the kinds of people that hover around those differences. There are incredible moments like the neighbour that always goes “neeeeetaaa” and how Janardan starts feeling important after his idea apparently catches on. Its a film about people who are constantly looking for reassurance and reaffirmation from others, people who still study “moral science” and are trying to survive and mean something to the immediate “society” in the corporate world. Yes some characters are exaggerated, but they arise from the issue. Whereas “A wednesday” feeds on our negligibility in the big scheme of things and makes the common man feel like, and be the “hero” for a moment , and we feel that Naseer’s common man speaks out the unspeakable anger in us and gives it justification and allows us to feel powerful, Hulla does exactly the opposite. It shows us how silly we are, it makes us feel stupid, we laugh at our own selves in it and in the end do not walk out of it free. Issues are still unresolved and life ruthlessly goes on. It speaks the truth however pathetic that is. The film seems incomplete so we come out saying what was that. we get so impassioned that we abuse it even disregarding it and we start discussing how the filmmaker should have done it.
Well this brings me to the sad state of things that some have to deal with it. I feel sorry for Jaideep because he made a passionate appeal but on the wrong shoulders. BIG PICTURES. earlier adlabs , now rechristened BIG Pictures. Well that’s the graveyard for anyone trying to make there first films or films they believe in, because that is where you will meet people who have already decided your film is not going to run. They killed Johnny Gaddar, they killed my own Black Friday and now they literally finished Hulla. Hulla is what independent cinema should be about, a new original voice, minimal resources and a good script . Even abroad the independent distributors , when they pick up a film they run it on less screens, but for a longer time for the word of mouth to built up despite of bad reviews and no opening. Well BIG pictures is chickenshit, too small and lacks balls. A complete bad news for anyone wanting to make an independent film. Hulla is a film that should be given a fair chance. Try and Catch it before it goes out or make sure you see it when it comes out on DVD.
Here is a filmmaker we can expect a lot of good cinema worth talking about from. One can easily see where Jaideep Verma is headed and i don’t think he has any reason to feel bad about. It is a proud first film and this is a filmmaker of the future. -
P.S. This post is not my opinion on A Wednesday, I have just used that film as an example and draw parallels to it.
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a whack in time! and a much needed one too.
I’m glad to see that a VIP agrees with me on Hulla. I should be sleeping right now (2.45 AM) - I’ve got a truckload of things to do tomorrow - but the critics’ reactions to Hulla have made me angry enough to write a whole post about it. About halfway through Hulla, I realised this is just how an independent, low-budget movie should be - fantastic script and great acting. Sure it has a couple of flaws, but I don’t think we’d be aware of them if we’re not consciously looking for them while watching.
People who have a passion for cinema, please support Hulla by watching it this week itself. I thought mera 280 rupees doob gaya before watching it, and after watching I was relieved ke it was worth it.
quote - This was one passionate man who would go to any length for what he believed in - unquote
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i remember september 11
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it was an act, done by people, who were passionate, and who would go to any length for what they believed in
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i also remember hitler
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and stalin
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and mao
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they all were pasionate people, and they all did go to maximum possible length
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my point is
the passion, and the belief, is the building blocks of fanaticism
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and basic sign of a fanatic is that his mind is firmly locked
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i say that
never ever anything good has happend through a man, who has a belief
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yes good has happened but by those who know
and
there is vast difference between knowing and believing
quote - I saw the film and it saddens me that people did not see in the film what i saw - unquote
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people are free to see what they wish to see
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this is democracy
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the seed of the tyranny is in the fact
that some people thought that others are not right
they are needed to be put right
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not everybody who has this kind of thought
has the ability to become a tyrant
but
this is the seed
that others are wrong
and there is a need to make it right
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human history is laden with such incidents
when some people try to make others right
only
it never ended up in any good
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and naturally
how can something good come from those who does not respect the freedom of others
quote - It was so there, after a long time i saw a film where you saw the author, someone who observes, someone who had things to say - unquote
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a c grade trash also comes from the observation of life
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a film as such comes from the observation of life
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i would be amazed if someone makes a film out of blue, which has nothing to do with life
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only the degree of observation varies
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some observe life deeply
some superficially
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everybody has something to say
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and in his eyes, what he has to say is of utmost importance
only
others don’t agree
quote - spoilt,indulged,entertained indian audience - unquote
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i am part of it
spoilt, indulged and entertained
.
and i would give my life but never migrate to cuba
where i guess
audience is still unspoiled, starved, and dying for some kind of entertainment
Anurag,
Thaks for backing such films and filmakers.
Woo, I tried to parse vishrant’s posts and decided it isn’t possible to understand them. Will Hulla be at any of the U.S. fests?
Hope there doesn’t come a point where BIG Pictures which is “chickenshit, too small and lacks balls”, looking at the bigger picture, ends up being your producer.
Didn’t the same happen with the self-masturbatory club too?
“i preferred the film over wednesday. Why ? it wasn’t populist. Nothing wrong in being populist but then nothing wrong in not being populist either” the logic just doesn’t ring good here!!! It is as if turning/ending up being populist was a crime on Neeraj Pandey’s and his movie’s part.
“Oh yes it wasn’t a perfect film, it had its own weaknesses in terms of few side performances and casting but what a script, and it was the script the critics have been trashing” why can’t the same be applied to “A Wednesday” too?! Wasn’t it for all its glitches, a good first time effort sans no hype, publicity and correct me if I am wrong an original?
The only crime “A Wednesday” committed was being populist?! Isn’t that something no one works towards consciously but surely doesn’t mind?
I have been reading many posts and reviews of this movie by various people on this side. I think some people can’t seem to accept the fact that there were many of us who didn’t like the film. For whatever reason. Personally, I go to the movies purely for entertainment. I work in an ad agency, and after a hard day’s work, I’m not interested in seeing something educational or different if its not suitably entertaining enough. Now while I didn’t think this was a bad movie, (I have mentioned before, I liked the concept, didn’t like the execution), it just wasn’t entertaining enough for me to justify the price of a movie ticket. I wish there was more humor for a start. My personal opinion, it suffered from an identity crisis. Then again, I’m no movie expert. I’m just your average film watcher who watches a heckuva lotta films - 2 to 3 a week on average. So ya… you can crucify me by saying stuff like… I didn’t get the film, I’m too dumbed down as an audience or whatever. Bottom line is… I didn’t find the movie to be worth the price of a ticket. It wasn’t entertaining enough and not paisa vasool enough. YES… I go to the movie to ONLY be entertained. And while I welcome a new idea, please entertain me! Is that too much to ask?
@Ritik
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, NO FILMMAKER HAS THE RIGHT TO LOOSE/UNDERESTIMATE AN AUDIENCE LIKE YOU. EVERY FRAME OF THE FILM WHETHER A/B/C/D GRADE HAS ITS OWN DEMOCRACY, YOUR OPINION IS FULLY JUSTIFIED !!!
GK
Thanks Anurag…for the (celebrated) voice of sanity!
Though there is every indication that Hulla won’t survive into the second week (thanks to our SIK generation), a film like this deserves the accolades and support from fellow filmmakers.
And yes, the side-characters were played shoddily by some of them, but were written very well. ‘Neetaaaaa’ and the old uncle looking for ‘Bedroom’ (even in CM’s car!), and that outsider-hater squeaky voiced….even the security waala…what masterstrokes!
@Ritik
I don’t think anybody is insulting you by saying that you are an ‘average film watcher’. It’s just that when the sensibility of a maker doesn’t match the sensibility of an ‘average watcher’, a compromise formula is forced/applied/chosen from both ends. Some film-makers refuse to bend…and sometimes, the viewer refuses to bend.
And it’s not about ‘too much/little to ask’, it’s about how much the maker wants to give. You can refuse it, and that’s pretty much all your mandate is.
completely disgaree with this article…if u cnnt provide for a sloution wats the fun..i knw i cnnot do this but bloody hell i want to feel that i cn do it..getting me!!
santosh
whoever said wednesday was bad..
i just prefer hulla..
and when you really can’t properly read the article, i m not surprised that you can not read the film.
vishrant- lol.. you are funny..sagar is casting for bheja fry 2.. will pass him your details
ritik..i completely take your point..
no arguments.. at the same time i was thoroughly entertained..
it was a low budget indi movie, you don’t go in expecting chris doyle in there..
you should see a lot of indi movies which are shot on handicams and are sometimes shoddier but then great camera work is not for which they are known.. they do the best they can.. on the second thoughts stay away from them, you might have the same opinion
I don’t think budget has anything to do with the quality of a film. If you look at ONCE, it was made for $100K but its such a fantastic film, great soundtrack, funny in parts and a cracker of an end. Entertainment-wise and quality-wise it matches up to any mainstream Hollywood film. I bet Bheja Fry didn’t have a huge budget but that didn’t stop it from being entertaining. But yea.. you found Hulla entertaining - thats clearly a case of to each his own. And thats the beauty of cinema… can never tell what will work. We stay in a world where a Johnny Gaddaar (LOVE that film) doesnt work and a Partner rakes in the moolah. But a director of a Johnny Gaddar can’t hold that against the audience. He didn’t and thats appreciated. So Jaideep shouldn’t either and bite the bullet and move on rather than complain about the movie not getting its due. Shit happens, gotta deal with it, rite?
again agree ritik..
individuals all differ
point taken
haven’t seen hulla but just wanted to add something to Anurag’s reply….if you really look at Jaane Bhi Do Yaaron, it’s not a great technical achievement, the editing is a bit off (sound doesn’t sync with lip movements especially in the beginning of the film when the guy in the blue kurta comes to collect the kiraya, but it’s one of the best scripts Indian cinema has seen, satire-wise, and it didn’t need technical wizardry to be lauded as a masterpiece….all it needed was a bunch of great actors and a fucking good script
don’t film like Johnny Gaddaar earn the recognition AND money they deserve through DVD sales and telivision syndication?…this isn’t a rhetorical question btw, i’d really like to know
Anurag Kashyap: I have not seen Hulla..it has not been released in Chennai. So I really do not know its merits. But I wish to appreciate your efforts in consistently supporting good films made by other filmmakers. It was a heartening post and thank you so much for taking time out to defend a colleague’s work. This is a quality rarely seen now-a-days. Yes, there are filmakers who praise other’s work, but mostly only after the film is declared a hit. Thanks again.
@ Vishrant - Who are you. I mean the way you write…its diferent. Am not saying that I agree with you on all points but ya some do make sense. Them look like poems but are definitely not so. I try reading all but at times up wondering what the hell is this…
The movie did not work for me
Hi Anurag,
I’m a fan of yours. Loved movies like ‘Kaun’ and ‘Yuva’ that you wrote and ‘Black Friday’, ‘No Smoking’ that you directed. These off-beat, small films never get a release outside India, atleast in the Middle East. Why can’t these films be released outside India?
It is not necessary to bring down someone else’s work to praise someone. But I do urge everyone to go and see Hulla.
It is not that the film has no flaws, but it still shows great promise and the ability to find meaning behind the ordinary and the everyday. The filmmaker has chosen a really difficult path which is to find a metaphor for our times in the details of the life around us, in a very real way.
You can say that the script does not fulfill all its potential but how many films can you spot these days that have a script with any potential to fulfill?
It is a story of people slowly going downhill, and that reminds us all of ourselves in some way, which is why it is not a populist idea. Please see it, and I promise to have a discussion on it later.
hi anurag,
i have always liked films directed or written by u, but above all that i like ur supporting nature for small budget films, which don’t have a solid backing from any big name. again u stood up for hulla. i went to watch hulla on first day in a mumabi multiplex,with my friend. u ‘ll be said to know, as i was that ,theater was not ready to run the film, because they needed at least 7 people for running a show and they had only 2 of us. i requested them, but they had their valid reasons. a family came to buy hulla’s ticket but changed their mind, they were 4, and now show was possible. i requested the family, but they bought some big name ka film ticket.i could not watch the film that day. was very sad,felt like it was my film .being a film school student it was heartbreaking for me. kab tak achhi par bina star wali films ko darshak nahi milenge.tab fir kya fayda hain ‘achhi script’ pe vishvas rakhne ka.i m nt against big films but what about small films.it takes same affort to make
a small budget film as it’s for a big one. though at times it’s more difficult to make a good but small film,who alse can know it better than u. itni mehant ke bad koi dekhne hi jane ko tyyar nahi hain,aise to fir sab love story around the try hi likhenge aoor banayenge.
@Sudhir Mishra
Thanks for coming out in support of the filmmaker. This is probably the 1st time you have commented in such a manner.
If only every reader of PFC go out make an effort & buy the ticket for films like these, we will have a completely different world in next 5 years.
yes mainak.. we all can have discussion on pros and cons of the movie later but i think a film like this has to be supported by being watched for us to have a movement.. what UTV is doing is great, they put out their films with confidence showing their faith in the product, which sadly no one else is doing..
Mr Mishra and Anurag, greatly appreciate your support on this. Yours are the two opinions I value the most in this town in matters pertaining to cinema, and so this is a big deal for me. You know how hard I’ve been trying to show you both the film before its release but somehow the producers did not allow that to happen. Even if your opinions were public 3 days ago, it could have made a difference to people trying to catch the film. My angst is not that I cannot move on - and no one needs to tell me that, I did it after the miserable sales of Local too and I will now too (after this week). My angst is that unlike the examples you give, Anurag - Johnny Gaddar, Black Friday - Hulla has got horrible reviews. Even some friends of mine have not gone and seen the film because of that what chance does the general public have? Good reviews at least allow a film to survive in public memory even if on dvd.
To people who don’t like the film, I have no problem at all. Boss, most of the crew that worked on Hulla did not like Local - I had no problem with that, we used to make fun of it. It’s just that there are personal agendas being spilled now in the name of commenting (in some cases, I even know who it is), and I think that is really tasteless.
Anurag, your observations are so spot-on, it’s pretty staggering to me. Like the line - “What no review saw in the first place was that here Sushant’s Raj puri was not the protagnist and Rajat Kapoor’s “Janardan” was not the antagonist.” Don’t know why putting it like that never struck me when i was pitching the film and no one was getting it for the same reason. Thanks again for your support.
Why is it that when someone who hasn’t liked the movie voices his opinion, it is considered ‘forcing one’s opinion on others’?
Aren’t you, who liked the movie, doing the same?
Why can’t it be accepted that some poeple do not and will not like Hulla. Whats so wromg in that?.
The posts here are just forcing all to not only to watch the film but in a way saying that not liking the film infact will reflect on your inability to understand good films. Thats so unfair..
Shailesh, your comment has got me thinking… maybe I’m forcing my opinion on others who like the movies listed in the Torture Series.
Seriously, there’s a difference between being civil about an opinion and rioting to display your displeasure. I guess that is akin to what kind of negative - civil or riots - comments show up.
@OZ, Thankfully you don’t have readers who would like the movies you like to rip apart.
I am talking about this almost terrorizing tone in all of AK’s posts, that almost seems to mean-anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a fool! Again, personal opinion!
The tone and style of Mr.vishrant makes me feel like RGV writing in disguise !!Lol!
sailesh..really? apologies if you think the post sounds like that.. it really isn’t the intention..
i don’t think i m attacking anyone except the distributors of the film and urging people to give it an audience and stating what i saw in it..
also state of cinema is much better now, but you can see only one distributor really doing it for their films and that is UTV.. whereas others are just dumping there films..
May be it’s because of your towering personality
(impressions created based on TV reports)
The point i am still trying to make is, please accept the fact that people don’t have common tastes and the one’s who didn’t or do not like your/your kind of movies are not fools!
PS: I like your/your kind of movies
Shailesh i don’t think they are fools but i m trying to tell them to see it in correct light..
will check my tone in the future..
@ anurag…
the UTV guys deserve credit for what they are doing.
this year they have produced the best movies so far and all have done reasonably well
Jodha AKbar
AAmir
Mumbai Meri Jaan ( the BEST of the year according to me)
A Wednesday
Welcome to SajjanPur
look how well they promoted WTS…the trailers were cut out quite well.
I wonder whats going on with the folks at BIG pictures. On one hand they are signing big deals with SKG and on the other hand here they cant even get decent show timings for their small movies. I for instance couldnt watch HULLA due to improper show timings. WTS releasing on the same day and high ticket prices notwithstanding.
may better sense prevail.
i think BIG pictures is focussing only on big picture.. safe , presold star vehicles.. they are really not into making movies or changing things but just ride the wave, sell popcorn and make deals so their stock prices go up..
whereas UTV has people who will take chances, listen to new ideas and pitch them correctly..we need more like them..
What BIG pictures wants, big pictures does and it’s ok.. just that people who don’t want to play safe should stay away from them..
[Editor Note : Nimit, Please don't make same comment every thid day on different posts. Thanks]
Dear Anurag Kashyap ji,
Hi, I am Nimit Kathuria. Seeing that many people are using (abusing?) this space to get in touch with you, I thought maybe I will do the same. I hope you don’t mind.
I am one of those (less objective) people who judge a book by its covers, a movie by its trailers and make up their minds entirely based on other people’s opinions, and so I have decided that you are a genius (I haven’t seen any of your films… yet, you see)(actually, well, I did… “Black Friday” on a pirated VCD but that’s a different story).
Anyway, coming to the point… being a genius that you are can you please help me (it’s urgent)? I am in my second year at the CBS, Delhi and a part of the Dramatics Society, and we are having a hard time choosing any script for our annual production this year. Last year, we did “Accidental Death of an Anarchist”, by Dario Fo but ended up cutting it so short (45 minute time limit), that it lost its essence, besides being in English (which many people were enthu to do, but sucked at improvs, so it kind of ruined it). Therefore, this time we wanted to do something which is shorter (originally) and in Hindi (though that is not a prerequisite), besides preferably having at least 8-9 characters (again, that is not a prerequisite). Can you please please please (I somehow believe that profusion proves desperation) help us out? ASAP.
Please suggest a powerful script (any genre) that we can adapt.
Thanks,
Nimit Kathuria
i knew this film would be interesting and i would enjoy watching something like this (similar thing happened when Khosla ka Ghosla was released). Though there was a small amount of apprehension before sitting in the hall and waiting for the film to start…honestly, i wouldn’t call it a great film, but the effort put in the film was decent. At least, the film is better than Partner (Partner was bugging…a pain)…
I’m glad small budget films are getting more and more prominent …and i’m extremely happy that UTV Spotboy is taking the initiative to produce films like Welcome to Sujjanpur,a wednesday and ofc Aamir…[i know Hulla is not UTV Spotboy's, but it's produced by the same lot who gave us Bheja Fry...]
eagerly waiting for Dev D….
I was instantly attracted to PFC when it said the following:
“The first objective is to keep it “Open Source”… a term commonly used in the Software community.”
I was also amazed to find the tremendous pull PFC has achieved across the globe: I cannot think of any other platform that has all possible entities (not stakeholders): film makers, actors, enthusiasts, aspirants, well wishers, audience - all coming together to discuss and relish cinema.
Wish something similar happens in the IT community of India. Who knows - we may have more products in the market, not the elusive and vague services that we continue to provide in the name of software development!
Unfortunately, I also felt that some privileged members at PFC seem to have more say than the others.
There are instances where the cautionary comment policy is overlooked, there are contributors who stake almost exclusive claim to humour and wit,there are posts which get an orchestrated applause and there are ideas that get nipped in the bud.
Forgive me if I read too much or err in my perception - believe me - I remain a PFC admirer - whatever the verdict.
Jaideep, I feel a sensitive film maker that you are, you should appreciate support as also value the opinion from all quarters - irrespective of where it comes from. In true open source spirit!
And I would not romanticize this request by stating the cliched : “You never know who among the unknown would spring to prominence in the time to come”
Rather, I salute the enterprise spirit of the unknown patron for whom the film is supposedly made - the viewer!
Warm regards
Sudhir
WOW! What a brilliant and heated discussion! Now I really want to see the film but alas, it will probably be ages before it plays in NYC…
When I see the brilliant minds of so many writers - and the directors of course - making their points about a film, I believe that the film has ALREADY succeeded. It is successful at making people think, successful at inspiring opinions. As opposed to so many films these days which simply leave me cold… walking out of the theater with thoughts of where to go for dinner and nothing else.
The response to this post proves the Hulla is a winner!
Most of the time I am a passive reader but I am compelled to write my opinion to the discussion thread on “Hulla”. I must say in the beginning that I have not seen “Hulla” (I do not even know when I will be able to watch it as I am based out of Pennsylvania and I didn’t hear anything about it being released here) so I am commenting more on these types of independent movies rather than one particular movie. I am also no film expert but over the years I am exposed to some quality cinema in India and abroad. What I personally feel is that we do not have appetite for anything which is out of the league. We are willing to watch “Sing is King” or whatever crap that is but we will not give a chance to a new director who has an interesting story to tell. I absolutely agree with Anurag that these movies need Studio backing like what UTV Spotboy is trying to do. There is always an audience for these movies provided it is properly marketed and targeted.
If we do not encourage these movies then we may not see another “Black Friday” or “Mumbai Meri Jaan” ever. I do not really know how much money Anurag’s “Black Friday” made or how many millions it lost, but the truth of the fact is that enough number of people have seen and appreciated the movie. And as a result of that we would be fortunate to see Anurag experiment more with content and story telling in his future movies. For me that is a great success by itself. If I were Jaideep , I will not worry too much about what Taran Adrash or what Khalid writes in their reviews. We have seen what Khalid is capable of as a film maker and we also know how in consistent these reviewers are. They ripped apart “No Smoking” just because it is not conventional and that is why a “Momento” will never be made in India.
Go see Hulla !
Subtle. Entertaining. A look from the wife to get your elbows off the table at your in laws house. Pohphle. The funniest scene in the movie. PooPhhhpleee. And a great sound track. People go see Hulla.
clemde@gmail.com
ab band karo yeh shoor gul aur Hulla!!
rajeev that is what i have always been afraid of.. majority..
scares me shitless
Anurag,
Can’t we have a script written by PFC users? Some one put a seed, then a thread and it progresses as a script. Guys can add characters that makes sense, etc. Sort of Wide Web Script? And you get it in a line, analysing the meit of each Script post?
Just a thought!!
its a great idea..
oz you listening
Anurag,
Any plans to come down here? Spend a couple of days..? Lets discuss…
Anurag, any change in phone number?
@Hari
Sorry to sound like the voice of cynicism here but every filmmaker’s worst nightmare is filmmaking by committe. It’s the reason why most studio films suck and the idea that a bunch of peope who have varying aesthetic sensibilites can come together and come up with a decent script is tough to imagine. Even the Soviets didn’t manage to accomplish it. Having said that I would really love to be proven wrong.
no plans to come down.. will mail you my new number.. how are things at TOONZ
The possibility of this film‘s first audience echoing the right noises about it is slim.
This one will die (make that has died) a quiet and mute one-show-a-day multiplex death.
@Mitch
I cannot disagree with you. But was airing a possibility… With one person like Anurag moderating may do the trick (fingers crossed!). And the PFC is not obliged to take all the inputs…but will have hundreds of minds working with one single goal… to come up with a great script… It may be like sending out one’s idea for comments and getting it implemented if it works…Of course it is an experiment…What I have seen in one production is something like this… The concept is pitched… comments taken… Premises presented, comments taken, etc… It really worked and the biggest of the sticky IP owner in the world just loved the script…
@Anurag
Good… going great…looking forward to your mail…
Anurag bhai …if the market of small budget and best quality film makers would rise then take my words , the CREDIT will definitely go in your name in the history of cinema.
looking forward to Dev D………..
Please Read my article at and suggest some solution and probably with a fresh Article if possible….. coz lot many folks were asking for solution and being an insider you can suggest the best to possible steps.
http://passionforcinema.com/are-writers-being-paid-respectfully-in-industry/#more-6737
It was rather enriching to read this heated discussion here.
At least our film is making some noise somewhere:-)
Loved your analysis of the film anurag, which doesn’t mean that i hate the voices disagreeing with you. Though, like Jaideep, I too wish the film gets some time for the word of mouth to spread. I feel most of the people who’ve seen the film, have liked it. For those who have not liked the film, all i can say is that our team has never said that we have made the greatest film ever:-) It has flaws, but aren’t there people who are still liking it? there must be some redeeming features in our humble venture? Is it really so bad that it must be trashed so viciously?
Are there any absolute rights and wrongs in a creative medium? Why can’t all of us accomodate each other’s pov?
Still it was really gratifying to see that Hulla was at least able to generate a worthy discussion. CHEERS !!
Loved your performance, Sushant- great to see you in a role that actually exploits you as an actor after a long time. Yes, it’s flawed- but it’s honest, intelligent, and thought provoking enough for me to say I really liked the film.
hey sushant great to hear from u….
i think u r a fantastic actor…..
u will be a welcome addition to pfc ’s illustrious list of bloggers..
Good to see you here Jaideep and Sushant.Its great when actors and makers of the film join the discussion.
It adds a different dimension altogether.:)
saw Sajjanpur today, and its Hulla tomorrow. important films.
@25-SUDHIRBHAI,AK
JUST SAW THE 3PM SHOW AT STERLING,WELL ONLY 11 PERSONS WERE THERE TO SEE IT !!! NO IDEA WHAT WAS THE FIGURE OF 5.45PM SHOW !!!!
GK
“HULLA” IS A PEOPLE GOING DOWNHILL COMEDY ! ONLY 2 PERFORMANCES STAND OUT 1.RAJAT KAPOOR AND 2.DATTA SONAWANE(INSP.PHOPLE)
GK
Hi Sushant,
I am thrilled to meet you in this fascinating forum. I have just seen two of your films - Satya and Lakshya - but even the short appearances offered a glimpse into the fantastic actor that you are. Every time I see Satya, I invariably yearn for “Rokda de raha ha na, puchnaich mangta hai” and “Kyu be daadhi, ustara dekhke gila ho gaya” (the terrific background score after you get scarred makes such an impact) as also your “Maliyabad” scene with Hrithik in Lakshya.
Hats off to you and others like Virendra Saxena, Saurabh Shukla, Raghubir Yadav, Makarand Deshpande,Yashpal Sharma…..who are picture perfect..whatever the size of the frame.
Wishing you every success for your future projects as also for Hulla.
Warm regards
Sudhir
Sushant, wonderful to see your comment. You’ve very rightly said that no one’s claiming Hulla is a flawless film, but then neither does it deserve the kind of dismissive throwaway criticism it’s getting. I enjoyed it.
You were wonderful in Sehar.
Mr Desai, what point are you trying to make with all the capital letters and by pointing out the low attendances? Is this an implication that just because the numbers are low, the film is bad?
@Kenny
The whole purpose of Independent film MOVEMENT is that more and more people should watch Independent Cinema, if that purpose is not fulfilled all indie makers should introspect.Also, I did not say/mean that film is bad.Since I know Sudhirbhai personally I honoured his appeal(pl read his comment@25)of going and watching the film before it is pulled down from theatres due to low attendance !!!
GK
@Kenny
The Letters were in CAPS just to highlight the ground reality which is far above any kind of intelectual masturbation/orgasms of discussing Cinema !!!
GK
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@ G.K. Desai
Sir, if nobody had a discussion on films, PFC would be meaningless. And we would never make progress in film-making. Not every Bollywood masala movie is a hit. Similarly, not every independent film will be to our tastes. But things are changing fast and everyone is seeing it. And for that, we have such discussions and filmmakers to thank.
I am glad you came out and wrote this Anurag and I guess that unstinted praise for this lovely gem was much warranted from someone of your (or for that matter Sudhir Mishra’s) stature. You have been one of those early brave hearts who started recognising the Indian Reviewer for what he has actually become. An unashamed show pony of words who writes to pander his ego Somewhere on PFC, I read Stefan who put it aptly saying how there is a problem with a whole lot of Indian reviewers who are more obsessed with writing a clever, witty piece rather than concentrate on being true to the content under review. Since I have no stake with the business and am just another back bencher in a movie hall, I have no qualms of stating this as it is. Kya tod lenge yeh sab mera? Of course, guys like you and Jaideep live with the Friday peril on your heads and so you have to take them on at your own cost. The worst offender of course is Khalid who would put a budding trainee copywriter to shame with his pathetic drivel week after week. But he is an easy target after all and has exposed himself far too many times with his stupidity to be given space on PFC.
Last evening finally, my wife and I watched Hulla at R Mall, Mulund. I was scared shitless thinking the show would be cancelled since there were just the two of us. Shortly after we settled in, another couple walked in too. But that was IT.
I was in a rather grim mood when it began but it amazed me how much I loved this movie even more the second time around. It left me uplifted and dejected (because of the unfair response to it) at the same time. For whatever my subjective view is worth, I consider it a priceless gem that has not been able to connect with the audience (whatever the reason, whether it was not allowed to be, being a part of it too). I have frankly not bothered to check if my friends have liked it or not because it will distress me even more if they haven’t.
Like I mentioned earlier, reviewers and critics do have a disgusting way of holding sway, alarmingly not on the audience who goes and sees a PARTNER or a NO ENTRY because at least that lot is unpretentious and don’t give a farthing for reviewers, but on those supposedly mature cine-goers who actually are not independent-minded enough to make a value judgment of their own. I know this is tantamount to disrespecting people’s opinions in the first place but my point is that unfortunately for small budget / regular actor movies like these, reviews are still so sacrosanct.
MMJ and A Wednesday got saved only because of the reviews, otherwise they would have probably met the same fate. Comparisons are not justified but I find Hulla as good if not better than MMJ direction wise and slightly more imaginative script wise for the simple reason that MMJ (and for that matter A Wednesday which is not even as good as MMJ) still mine existing territory in the viewer’s minds. People’s response mechanism to such movies is already fixed (I mean before they even come and see those kind of movies) and all the film maker has to do is to be true to his vision to evoke those triggers.
On the other hand, a Hulla is not only more inventive, it treads a ground that is at variance with the majority pov (see how people for some strange reason keep criticizing the premise). I have a very good reason for stating so Anurag. That other couple who I was watching with I noticed kept laughing uproariously all through the first half (and the second). However during the interval when I asked the gentleman if he was enjoying it, he made a disparaging remark saying “Kya ajeeb picture hai” and gave a sneering expression. It made me wonder if he was unsure of his own instinctive response because there was nobody else in the cinema hall except the four of us. But that is understandable. What is not, and well-nigh dreadful is that the reviewers subscribe to the same majority pov while their profession should have actually prepared them much better to recognise the nuances in scripts such as these. The less said about the cribs on production values the better. What were they expecting? Gladiator? Titanic? Huh!!!
I feel terribly depressed that a film maker’s energies have been so wastefully dispensed in defending a movie that actually needs no defence to begin with. This business of first half vs second half is even more bewildering. Regardless of how the movie was promoted (as a comedy or whatever), how is that the supposedly intelligent rarefied Indian critic does not even get the actual point of the movie; that as a society we are so blase about an individual’s basic rights? IS THAT SO BLOODY DIFFICULT TO GRASP?
To you Jaideep, I shall not offer any false solace or words of encouragement but all I wish to say is you have to continue on the path you have chosen irrespective of what the tyrannical majority chooses to think. This is a movie with a lot of class, and has that rarest of attributes in the Indian context, an authentic, uncompromising voice. So take a bow, even if it is in front of an invisible audience that hasn’t yet had the chance or the brains to view or appreciate it.
@VH
The decision to watch a movie is not entirely personal nowadays ,there are friends with whom we do not share the same sensitivities ,then there is time ,you miss one weekend and by the time you wait for the next one the movie is gone ,then there is the all important money factor ,with multiplexes charging anywhere between 250 - 300 for the first day show .
For example I missed last weekend and I don’t know if Hulla will stay on till next weekend…..and it may be months before the DVD hits the markets.
So watching a bad movie is a very costly affair nowadays ,which is why people wait and watch before going to the theatre ,which is why I’d rather wait for the DVD of a movie rather than watch a show coz if I can own a copy of a movie for the same price for which I saw the first show then why not boss ?
For movies like Hulla and MMJ to succeed either you would have to change the system of movie delivery or create a gargutan marketing machine…….
The first alternative is really not an option so we are left with options like selling the movie via the internet or bring out cheap DVD’s.
Moser Baer is a good example here ,by selling CD’s for 35 and DVD’s for 50/- they are a good option to Internet piracy.
The only hope is that maybe someday some marketing genius will come up with some startup to distribute movies securely and cheaply.
Guys get real. It’s was Bombed Film in it’s making stages itself…It released and stayed true to its appeal during its making…no difference…n nor do I blame the Audience for avoiding this Master film…this sounds like some Art House Cinema portal…all talk of the film thats dead n dried….
Sunil Doshi (Handmade Films!!)is not the Best Producer that Jaideep got. He is the most Miser producer from the old school lot we got in Big Pictures.
Hi Anurag,
I love reading your articles and you have introduced me to a wide variety of Hindi movies.Reading your opinions makes me feel that India has changed and is progressing towards making different movies.Actually, it makes me want to come back to India.
I loved Black Friday and wish you all the best for your future endeavors.
I was introduced to your writing through a friend of mine and I can’t thank him enough for this.
In my last post I had mentioned “why can’t we accomodate each other’s pov?”, ironically that’s the basic premise of our film too, and this long thread of posts here exactly mimics that
I guess there is a little bit of ‘hulla’ roaring inside all of us. It’s just that we tend to forget that understanding someone else’s pov doesn’t necessarily mean that we’ve given up ours. Tolerance, alas, isn’t such a popular term anymore.
Too deep man, I’ll shut-up now.
cinema is personal man…..it has got to be subjective, if it isn’t it becomes a lecture…..everyone has his/her opinions but don’t knock the makers’ efforts,….even the ramsay bandhu movies were made with blood sweat and tears, i’m sure…….the only filmmakers who party on the sets instead of working are the yashraj and kjo guys…..and they admit it themselves
True words, true words. I believe it’s all about communication and understanding. It is subjective - whether it’s the critic, a film enthusias/geek or the general audience. The only thing we can do is try to understand the other point-of-view and make ours understandable, too. Not convince or change, just understand. And with understanding comes reflection. Objectivity can be only a goal, something we can aspire to approach, come closer to, but won’t ever be able to reach completely. That’s also what criticism is about I guess.
At the same time, I think there should be some basic respect towards the filmmakers whether one likes or dislikes the movie in question. I never understood how someone can hate a film or filmmaker (besides any personal reasons). Also, critics seem to be reviewing the director, not the film itself sometimes. Maybe one should opt for talking more about what “it”, the film, does, not so much what “he/she”, the filmmaker, does. Filmmaking being such a complicated process, it’s very difficult to pinpoint who did what, who’s responsible from a viewer’s perspective. Of course, everyone involved (whether director, script writer, cast etc.) should get his/her praise and criticism respectively, but if you don’t have anyone whom you can “accuse” or “attack”, it may become less personalized. But maybe that’s only my fantasy.
It’s a matter of language, too, I think. Must someone state that this or that film is a piece-of-shit? Is this really necessary? Does it help to express someone’s opinion like that?
Sorry for sounding preachy. It’s not meant to be!
This string really has an arc!!! Started with an opinion by Anurag with conviction, many supporting posts, then critiquing the reviews, then at last philosophy…good.
But overall it is healthy…thanx to Anurag for flint…let the spark grow to fire and burn all the inflated egos…
The genuine WILL survive…
@rik etc - anuraag is being too polite. a film is not pani puri or khichdi -that it will have to be paysa wasool.seriously -its hard to mince words reading ur post harping abt the right to entertain. well entertainment is subjective rik -some get entertained by satyajit ray - some by singh is kingg. i found the movie eminently watchable- and entertaining.
i will risk sounding patronising and tell u - as jaidip had already warned in his post - if so called entertainment is all ur after - stick to the Sing is kingg lot.
some people just don’t get good things.it happens.
hulla was not for u.thankfully
partha
Another day, another nasty remark!
Why do you always have to look down upon people who didn’t like Hulla?
@Partha, i guess you missed most of Sushant’s comments. Above all, you missed Sudhir Mishra’s comment. You don’t have to malign someone else’s work to highlight what’s good in your work!
I have always seen discussions on PfC that talked about good and only good about a particular movie, the trend seems to be changing!
@Partha
“i will risk sounding patronising and tell u - as jaidip had already warned in his post - if so called entertainment is all ur after - stick to the Sing is kingg lot. some people just don’t get good things.it happens”
LOL .. isn’t that what people have done? Stuck to what they liked …maybe even they are thankful that Hulla was not for them!!
@sailesh.
na i read all the comments.
i’m not looking down at anyone -but i’m tired of all the political correctness. i’m still saying sometimes people hide an indifference to quality behind the convenient facade of choice.certainly u cant hold the director responsible for that.
and lets not be all politically correct here (there r enough places for that alredy) and acutally say that SIk are quality movies. they are horrid movies -horrid money making moviies. nothing more.call their makers good businessmen but not good movie makers or anything.
partha
To the critics :- Go ahead n watch the next kal Ho na ho.You
guys are encouraging and breeding a dumb mindset.
Please please please keep making movies like Hulla !
I cant begin to tell how much I really enjoyed this one..
especially the scene where Sushant has to pronounce the Inspector’s name was so HILARIOUS!…and me and some of my friends were literally touching the floor of the cinema and laughing like crazy !
Anurag -
We wont be doing the Doga 3d game for money…all we want is to let the Doga fans,including us, to enjoy their fav superhero in a 3d game and we are really passionate about this. Also, we are backed by several years of professional experience in 3d game making field..I think it will be a very new thing for the Bollywood scenario…please give us a shot..we wont let you down !
Thanks.
Humm… One thing i dont get here is… why all the Singh is Kinng bashing? Its one thing to say you didn’t like it but why call it a bad film? The bottom line is that so many people went and saw it and it raked in the moolah. And not everyone hated it. Personally I thought it was mindless entertainment, but I would not go to the extent of calling it dreadful. Yes, small indie films should be encouraged, no doubt, but you can’t blast the SIKs and the K3Gs of the world cos they have their own audiences. Personal taste right? You don’t have to bring something else down to see you go up… Theres enough room out there for everyone!
Ritik Sharma - I know I am being biased against movies like K3Gs…so yes my apologies…taste is a personal thing afterall and nobody can say which is better :)…I just hope that movies like BlackFriday,Bheja Fry,Khosla ka Ghosla,Ek chalis ki last local, keep rolling out
@ShashankD
Can I have more info about “Doga 3D Game” please?
I’m very curious
@ Shekhar Shimpi
Well, we havent started on the game ,but we desperately want to make this game and we have a track record of
starting and finishing(the hardest part) the games we have taken…and I dont think there can be any better opportunity than this i.e
release the game along with the release of Doga- the movie..
We really will do justice to the game because we must be the craziest fans of that superhero !
I just hope Anurag can give us one chance (like the famous dialogue from his legendary movie Satya :- “mauka sabhi ko milta hai”..and I hope we get one too !
My email IDs are :-
shashank_dixit_81@hotmail.com
shashank_dixit@yahoo.com
@ Shashank
Thanks for the quick reply
I haven’t read Raj Comics that much
But I know the characters
your project sounds fun,.
May I ask, where do you guys work?
And did you start Artwork and all?
All the best
Thats great
I’ll drop you an email!!!
@Shashank
why are you asking Anurag regarding the 3-D Doga game?
I think it’s Raj comics that holds the rights!
@ Shekhar
We guys are based in Mumbai.Nope we havent started on
the game yet,coz we dont have the license
@ PJ
You are right…Rajcomics holds the license to Doga series,but we thought that a person of Anurag’s stature
would be better able to convince Rajcomics to allow us to create a 3d game on Doga series…and the fact that it launches along with the movie will be such a big plus !
@Shashank
Why don’t you guys do some Artwork and look of the Game,
And pitch it to Raj Comics;
Why wating for Anurag?
@ Shekhar - Well, pitching a game like this has wasted efforts many a times for us and
thats exactly why we need a green signal first..For pitching,we can as well show many of our published titles
band ghadi bhi do baar sahi samay deti hai,lekin is dilasa se ghadi chalne nahin lagti.
buri film ke support aur backing se directot aur digbhramit honge.jaadeep aage ki sochen…is film ki marammat nahin ho sakti.
baat boori lagi ho to maaf kare,apriya satya bhi sun lena chahiye.
i saw your pick on World Movies….13 Tzameti…crazy film…superbly crazy…i just loved it…
i’ve already seen Battle of Algiers much before Black Friday released…i liked tht one as well…but i would really like if u could jot down some films for me that are similar to 13 tzameti…
i recently saw the dreamers, Schindler’s list and young torless…good films…
Yes. 13 Tzameti is one weird movie indeed. Very different plotline..Havent seen BoA yet. Guess will have to do so…
Hi anurag and everyone,
After a long time i stopped by at PFC & got to read about the movie HULLA. Surprisingly i didnt hear about the film as none of my friends have seen it & i rarely remember seeing its posters on the hoardings.
After going through the views & reviews about HULLA on PFC, i finally watched the film myself.
HULLA definately cannot be classified as a bad movie though i agree it wasnt a greatest movie. The climax of the movie had to be like that. I definately dont see the guy winning a lottery to buy a independent banglow in juhu & sleeping peacefully by showing his F-I-L his middle finger.
While watching wednesday i saw where the story was going & predicted the climax after the first 10 minutes.
MAY BE HULLA looked monotonous because people are used to the background score ( even the RR like in charlie chaplin movies )and yes melodious songs. May be that was the case some yawned as mentioned in the reviews. (A funny film like Phoonkh keeps audience awake because of the loud RR and as the hoarding says its a TERRIFYING HIT. i agree.)
Firstly, to pitch a script like HULLA and get it approved to make it into film in itself is a great achievemnet apart from making a film in 1 cr on a subject like this. Two thumbs up for the Jaideep and his crew.
The lesson to learn for new directors is… look for a producer / production house that honestly backs up the film. UTV .. yeah! definately.
BTW @ Anurag i totally missed to watch 13 tzameti.
I wanted to see the movie in the theatres but it flew off the screens in a week. Which means I’ve got to wait for the DVD release to see what you guys are talking about. When is it releasing?
dun waste ur time dude..u ll sleep thru it
Haven’t seen the film yet, the multiplexes in Pune didn’t allow me to, but am tempted to quote Nida Fazli on this, “mu ki baat sune har koi, dil ke dard ko jaane na… aawazon ke bazaaron mein, khamoshi pehchaane na…”
John/Satchit - If you’re really interested in watching this film, you can buy it online on bigflix. Costs almost the same as a multiplex ticket. I too missed it at the theatres but bought it from bigflix. No regrets. It’s a good film, not great but definitely among the better ones this year.
Saw the film with just 10-12 people watching. It took me some time to get into it, but after a while the humour really began to work for me. It is a slightly shoddy film (which could be a budget issue) with focus problems in some places, and shabby art direction sometimes, but as a story and script, I think it is brilliant. In fact, after a point the shoddiness just doesn’t matter as the involvement with the story is more important. Very funny right through, very different kind of humour and a unexpected powerful end. I wanted to see it a second time but it was gone before that. For me, it is among the best 2-3 films of the year. I can’t wait for the dvd. When is it out?
Satchit, thanks for reminding me of Nida Fazli’s immortal verse after all these years (and No, not to slight your memory friend, but the actual verse is Munh ki baat sune har koi, dil ke dard ko jaane kaun, aawaazon ke bazaaron mein khamoshi pehchane kaun…?) Does anyone even remember Pankaj Kapoor acted fabulous DD serial Neem ka Ped for which this was a title song sung by Jagjit Singh? Jaideep should identify with this verse very well after his experience. That you can buy it off Big Flix is great Aditya. And yes Prasad, you are absolutely spot on, it IS I would say amongst the two best films of the year; right up there with Mumbai Meri Jaan. Except that, well, one got its rightful due at the box office. But then as Fazli says… khamoshi pehchane kaun?
My inlaws were visiting from guwahati and i had to entertain them last weekend. Of the movies playing, i manipulated them towards Hulla since rajat kapoor has been one of my favourite actors.
30 mins into the movie, i stopped feeling guilty about dragging them to see it, because they were not just chuckling, they were laughing!
There have been quite a number of movies about mumbai life like metro and Mumbai meri jaan but hulla is the mumbai that we don’t see. it’s what happens in mumbai homes. not against a larger than life terror attack but agianst the cracked peeling paint of a mumbai , damp with the monsoon havoc. wish the ending was happier, but that’s life.
i’ve lived in mumbai for 23 years and i’ve never seen a roack band perform at railway staions or in subways, but i have seen eunuchs harrasing commuters at signals everyday.
this is the real mumbai, meri jaan.
Shashank D & all other lovers of Bheja Fry. Pl can we stop using this films name alongwith extremely original films like Black Friday, Khosla ka Ghosla. Its truly painful to hear good things about such a shameful rip off….
what are the collections for hulla?? has it recovered costs?
[Editor Note: Comment partially deleted. Jamal, please dont write anything about illegal downloading in your comments. Thanks]
@ram - it must have rcovered its costs long back, given its small budget.
Hi Anurag,
This is Paras Sharma from JAM Magazine. I’ve been trying to get your contact details for a couple of weeks now with no success. I wanted to do a story on how Paanch was the first Hindi movie centered around a rock band and not Rock On!!
If you read this could you kindly get in touch with me?
My e-mail address is paras@jammag.com
Hoping to hear from you soon.
Paras
suggu - there is nothing really original about Black Friday..Maybe Bheja Fry is a rip off but who cares..I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed the other movies that I mentioned.
Shashank D - I’m sorry but you don’t seem to know the difference between a rip off and an adaptation from a book. So sad!! Thats one of the reasons why you have no problem even if the film is a frame to frame to copy (STOLEN).
I suggest you start some other blog called passion for stolen dvds.com
suggu - thanks for enlightening me suggu, but you dont seem to get it…I am not bothered if the movie was orignial, rip-ff, adaptaion or hell what not..
I enjoyed the movie whether it was a rip-off or not…I hope u dont have some personal enemity with the creators of Bheja Fry, because it does sound like one
and like always , ‘jealous’ people like suggu spoil a good discussion…so suggu - go fuggu…my last visit here in the forum
Great Movie! This what is defined as meaningful cinema!
Loved Pankaj Kapur as usual..
@ Dj
I think u have confused this with movie Halla Bol starring Pankaj Kapoor, this post was about Hulla.
Sorry, about the that.
Dear anurag,
Ye jaankar achcha laga ki hamaare naye directors ek achchi film support me saamne aate hain. Shayad Hulla ko ek sahi vyakhya (interpretation) ki jaroorat thi, jo mujhe tumhare review me dikhi hai. Thanks for that.
Maine Hulla Dilli me july me ‘Osian’s sinefan film fest’ me dekhi thi. as a student of film and working on ‘cinema and city’ for my research hulla instantly attracted me. is film ki undertone ’shahar’ ko samajhne ka ek bahut deep nazariya deti hai.
I’m a ’shaukiya’ film reviewer and i wrote my take on Hulla when the film released. Jaideep acknowledged it on his blog also. reed my take here…
http://www.mihirpandya.com/2008/09/halla/
I just want to say that ki jab hum film reviews ki baat karte hain to sirf English media ko hi yaad karte hain. Hindi aur other indian languages are also has a lot of people who has the ’sight’ too seen what left unseen by English press. Mr. ajay brahmatmaj is not the only representative of Hindi press.
thanks passion for cinema for giving this debate a platform!
Agree with you Anurag, ‘Hulla’ is much more than a watchable film amongst the run of the mill Bolly-fare. After I watched it, I wondered why there had been so little publicity for it. But now I got to know, as you said, Big Films killed its prospects. Just imagin what a bit of innovative marketing could do to Hulla….In fact what happened with it is a common problem of corporates entering the creative domain. I wonder how they hope to be in this business after showing such nice ability to read films…Does money do all, really?
yesterday i saw the promo of dev.d .amazing .just wating for the film.hy anurag keep going .