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Jaane tu ya jaane na - Abbu bored me to death saala!!!
Love Story 2050 ya Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na ? Me and KK were not confused about making the choice. Its Harry Baweja vs Abbas Tyrewala. But KK had some other reason. At Love Story 2050 screening, booze would be there. May be we can sit through the film then. No, lets vote for the writer. Afterall he co-wrote one of our all time favourite film, Maqbool. We compromised on the booze factor.
Mummy I want panipuri. A squeaky voice from the row behind us.
Must be kid.
Beta panipuri bahar jaake khayenge.
Ahhhh…naaaaiiiii…papa….panipuriiiiii…mummy.
Ok, we are fucked.
Beta, dekho papu cant dance aayega…abhi jaldi aayega.
KK looked around…Koi aur seat khali bhi to nahi hai.
In theatres, the message on the screen should be changed – switch off your mobiles and KIDS!! OR please go and watch thoda pyaar thoda magic with your kids.
Kk – the credit roll looks nice.
Me – ya, love all around in all possible colours. Painting hangover of Aamir Khan productions from their last film. Ok bad one.
2nd scene in the film ( spoiler alert).
I am sorry. We tried hard but could do nothing.
Me – it must be x or y.
KK – hmmm.
It turns out to be X. oh no! yes ! shit. Even the jokes are predictable.
Tu bahut intelligent ho gaya hai re.
No, I didn’t use my brain. Or may be I have started thinking like Abbas. Or is it the reverse case. He has started thinking like me. Ya, chances are much higher. De Tali!
No man no, don’t do this. I want to like the film. Its Tyrewala’s debut film. Somuji have been waiting for this one. De Tali!
20 mins into the film. KK finished a bottle of water with a pack of chicken sandwich.
KK – ghar chalein kya ?
30mins
Kk – ghar chalein kya ?
Me – paagal ho gaya hai tu ? tu ja. Dinner is also there. Have told my servant.
KK - hmm.
We decided to concentrate.
Tera mujhse se hai pehle ka nata koi…yun hi nahi dil….……jaane tu ya jaane na.
It’s a world of rats, meow, boms, roltu, jiggy, shitty, potty, dicky, fucky and god knows what!! i dont know any such group. And if i knew, i would just put a bomb there. Am not at all interested in stories of all those rich, bored and dumb kids who have nothing to do in life except sing, dance and party. Its one such bunch. There are some thirty party scenes (ok, bit less ) in the film. And if there is one gujrati in the group, I can bet that you can guess the name. Yes, he is jignesh who will pronounce sushant as soo-shant. And yes people still laugh on that.
KK is turning left to right. Kya hai yeh ? chal kya raha hai ? kaun hai yeh log ?
Me – de tali.
Manjari to Genelia – Use kisi aur se pyaar ho gaya hai. duniya ki sabse purani kahani.
And Jaane tu ya jaane na is exactly that. Its yet another we are friends—confused–lovers—just friends–good friends–oh no–made for each other finally. And to give a cue on how you should be feeling about the film, there is even the “YOU” factor in the film who transforms from am-fuck-interested about the story to tell-me-or-I-will-die to never-heard-something-like-this before.
Autopsy Guru Dabba said – seriously guys, how great can a college romance be ?
Damn, he is right again.
Jayant Kriplani, Anuradha Patel, Kitu Gidwani, Naseerudin Shah, Paresh rawal – all my favourite actors and all of them have nothing much to do. They are all caricatures. Its the story of a college kid becoming Ranjhor ke Rathore with the help of Khan Brothers (the Natural Born Buffoons . Other than white and red blood cells, I think they have something called BBC - buffoon blood cells, that Salim Khan didn’t have but somehow the three khans have, and in good number)
Those of you who are playing kabhi kabhi aditi in non-stop loop, you would not believe the scene where the song comes. It’s the hands down winner of the most cheesiest, corniest, kiddish situation of the decade. I would cringe on my deathbed. Or may be the count of rbc (romantic blood cells ) in my blood is not there.
DPac – if u like it, do let me know. Next time when we meet, I will not be able to stop laughing. I was trying to hide my face so that the songs gets over soon.
What else ?
Let me think….hmmmmm……still thinking…….hmmmmmmm…tirkit dhana….tirkit dhana….
Some scenes are funny. Some witty and smart one liners. The director hasn’t killed the writer yet. And Pratiek Babbar scores. No, he is not there in any poster, hoarding, song or promotional video. But he got some of the coolest lines and he delivers it well. The non chalant attitude never made someone so interesting in recent times. ( vasan – this is what I meant by disinterested but not boring and lethargic acting )
What else ?
Thinking……Tearing my hair…don’t have much anyway…..still thinking…..tirkit dhana…tirkit dhana……
yes, someone must be happy, very happy. Up there. Guess who ? Somuji. Having the last laugh. I know he was waiting for the debut film of the greatest writer of the world.
But yeh Somuji hai kaun ? De Tali.
You don’t know Somuji ?
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What else ?
Thinking…..still thinking…….thinking hard……..thinking very hard…..tirkit tana…tirkit dhana…
The End.
Me – kk ghar chalein.
KK – WTF!!!!!!!!
BTW, if you are thinking that the film is devoid of any intelligence, then wait till the last shot. You will be proved wrong. Godot ka ab bhi hai intezaar!! And de taali!!!
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hillarious take.. Is it that bad?
Nik
:(
1-2 din ruk gaye hote..
Baap re is it really that bad? I feel like throwing my tickets away.
watch it. don’t forget, some clowns here even ran down the music. and is the best we’ve heard in a while.
:)
yeah Nik, Ankur and A just A,
watch it and make up ur own mind…
now since the expectations are rank low.. the experience can only go higher… (if it goes lower do let us know)
oh no! you broke my heart, pnu.
Holy shit, its really that bad? I thought it would have been at least as good as Ishq Vishk…
By the way, no comments on how Imraan Khan is in the film?
Much appreciated laughs from these bits:
“It’s a world of rats, meow, boms, roltu, jiggy, shitty, potty, dicky, fucky and god knows what!! …”
“KK is turning left to right. Kya hai yeh ? chal kya raha hai ? kaun hai yeh log ?”
“Autopsy Guru Dabba said – seriously guys, how great can a college romance be ?
Damn, he is right again.”
That last one, not exactly a laugh, but… well… point to be noted your honour…
I have to disagree with pnu and KK here..yaar..are you guys taking this movie that seriously? the tone of the movie is set when the kids start narrating the story…and rotlu enacts the horse riding scene and the girl says..is this your “sapna” or his…and rotlu says..its his spana but he narrated us…same with the movie..its more of a fantasy movie….about cliche? didnt you laugh at the cliche jokes? or are we too cool to be in high school types..where even if we want to laugh we just chuckle and say..huh..how cheesy?
Maybe we were looking for different things in this movie..yes i was expecting a lot from Abbas..but the first 10-15 mins sets the tone of what the movie is gonna be like…
One thing i liked is the arrogance of the writer abbas comes forth…some scenes where whne the ids are nararting the story..one of them says” nah man..you cannot let these details so early in the story”
Beg to disagree:) Loved the movie. Simple story treated wonderfully I thought. It was slightly patchy when it began perhaps but the rest of the movie more than made up for it. Thought it did exactly what it set out to do. A breezy light hearted youth romance… an apt tribute to Nasir Hussain. Loved the direction, the script, the casting, the dialog, the performances specially of Prateek Babbar (a wonderfully done brother sister relationship), Paresh Rawal, the Khan brothers which was a really outrageous and funny track with a lovely pay off… and of course Imran and Genilia. Perfect debut for the boy. Totally natural and charming. Even Naseer was great fun to watch after quite a while. And obviously its got a fantastic soundtrack. Worked bigtime for me and everyone I was with. My only regret.. I wish they had played the original track Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na (from Aa Gale Lag Ja) in the end credits:)
First of all, this entire diatribe of yours is excruciatingly unfunny …the reason you didnt like it (i presume you didnt) :you went in looking for a scorsese and were stuck with a nora ephron or gary marshall…..in order to be an intelligent viewer you have to have the right kind of expectations ..have u seen the trailers or were you living under a rock……
i hate the kind of people who abuse light movies/nonsensical movies movies with songs etc…….ridiculous waste of time, this ‘review’ that is………this movie is the perfect anti-formula movie…it revels in and makes fun of the very cliches that are the foundations of the hindi film industry…i thought you would be intelligent enough to get the deeper digs but i guess you were too engrossed in thinking about how to trash the movie in a piece on PFC
this is prob the perfect weekend rom com chick flick…..the girlfriend is happy and you get a few laughs as well…anyway at least it isnt as bad as love story 2050 or is it irobot meets the fifth element meets minority report meets back to the future
Prateek was refreshing..no doubt and it was wonderful to see Anooradha Patel after such a long time..and tell you what..she looks just as gorgeous and sweet even today
I read the rediff review and was shocked by the descriptin of first few scenes of the movie.
“Rarely do you feel bored as four friends narrate the love story of the protagonists — Jai and Aditi — to a bored newcomer, who joins the group by the time the film ends.
”
This concept of a group of friends narrating a love story piece by piece is exactly what Radha mohan did in his acclaimed thamizh movie “Azhagiya Theeye”. It is really difficult to assume that Abbas walltube walla would have taken pains to see a thamizh movie, but highly possible that the inspiration for both movies could be some Hollywood or french or korean or probably bangladeshi movie. Lets all do this research and find out the original movie with that plot device and enjoy it.
This post is pure, unadulterated trash.
“This post is pure, unadulterated trash”-So true.
A just a - go watch it. decide for urself.
iishika - even clowns r much funnier than this one.
om - no i wasnt expecting anything out of the world. thought it wud be good time pass, breezy romantic story. atleast thats whats the promos promised. but i got so bored man. its not about being cool or uncool but can we move a bit now. sardar doing bhangra, parsi who is dumb, kanta behan n jignesh bhai, bongs looking for mishti doi, tilakdhari tam bram…m bored.
abhay - wasnt looking for anything remotely scorsesish! n i dont hav any problems with nora ephron,gary marshal or light movies. infact i love many of their films. sometimes they make u feel stupid n silly but its great fun. oops my girlfriend wasnt with me. may be thats why i didnt enjoy it. blame it on KK then. saw the promos and i expected schindler’s list with lil bit of song n dance.
The idea of film being told mostly in flashbacks by friends of the couple is inspired from the 1995 film FORGET PARIS that starred Billy Crystal. This style was tried in Chalte Chalte too by Aziz Mirza
@om - what do you think about the pet song of the year..kabhi kabhi aditi ? n about me or kk not liking the film, i knew this would be coming…u pfcwallahs dont like mainstream films.
@jaiganesh - its not actually a concept film. so dont think that matters much. Forget Paris also has the same idea.
@aditya, french - we are dying to have some pure unadulterated posts. if u guys have some time, do mail it to passionforcinema@gmail.com
om - i loved kuch kuch hota hai, enjoyed kal ho na ho and can watch socha na tha anwhere. but jaane tu..bus rehne do ab.
apni daphli,apna raag…yeh pnu ki rai hai…aap khud dekho,phir achchha kaho.
lol what were you expecting?? Seriously did you guys expect it to be awesome, mindblowing, brilliant movie just because its Abbas tyrelwala’s? bunch of rich kids fooling around…promos to dekhe the na.
@pnu,
waaaaah ppnu eheh
u are growing up if u liked KKHH and after all these yrs couldnt stand JTJTYJN ehehehe
i liked the movie.
@dpac..its fucking oh so cute!! he is cute,she is cute, they r cute,mom-dads r cute,pets r cute,friends r cute, our gang is cute, love story is cute and the film is also cute! cuteness killed me man. will rent socha na tha anyday.
totally off review man.. its no masterpiece but there was no attempt to create one.. is it fresh? well.. yeah it is.. the f up is the borrowing from forget paris.. even so, it will work for the audience its been made for without seriously offending other sensibilities.. unless you’re as sensitive as the writer of the above review.. please don’t take yourself so seriously friend.. de taali yourself..
lovely hilarious post … hilarious comments phonix …
everyone - go watch the film ..and decide for urself
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Maza aa gaya nhai Phoenix …. i wish i had watched the film with KK now…we would have left for nearby Gokul Bar after title credits
awesome man……..
“Other than white and red blood cells, I think they have something called BBC - buffoon blood cells”
hilarious……still laughing
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pnu..the sweetness factor, eh..this i will agree to a bit..i was kinda annoyed a bit by genelia with a lot of sacchrine..lekin fir bhi…jaane do…lets agree to disagree..end of the day..i am happier than you..i watched a good movie..you didnt..hehe…yennjaai
Articles like this one reaffirms my faith that PFC is no more on passion for cinema. Cinema need not always be considered a serious art form. Most writers in PFC seem to have this wrong notion of anything mainstream is crap, of course, unless directed/acted by an elite group of people the writers ‘think’ are cerebral.
The following is just what I think and I am open to a healthy debate.
I am in no way trying to deride any of you guys but, I think the writer of this article is confused between liking a movie and liking a genre. IMHO, the movie was light hearted, funny with in-house jokes at Indian rom-com movie cliches. A lot of thought has easily gone at the scripting stage. The soundtrack is gorgeous and the casting is spot-on. Only Aditi in this group was actually this rich kid. Jai was actually shown as hailing from this average middle-class family. So I dont know what the problem with the writer is.
I hail from a middle class family and my college gang had an Enthu, a Mico, a Paddy and all that f**king shit as you had mentioned.. And we did go to parties. We did get dropped by our rich friend.. You have a completely wrong sense of what it is to be in during college.
If the movie intends to provide you escapist fun without insulting your brains, then it should not matter if it is mainstream or not (yeah, please exclude Dhoom, Welcome, recent Yashraj-kind of crap here). I loved Om Shanti Om as much as I loved Omkara or Maqbool. They have to be viewed with different sensibilities and in that sense, they can still be seen in the same pedestal. I can liberally point out some serious glitches in a movie like Aamir which may not hold for a JWM.
It is a real pity that a person who cannot find this difference misses out on the pure escapist fun that one can derive out of such PFC’s critically bashed movies.
pnu as i said..the song placements were really bad..they were forced down your throat..and this is what Rehman hates…now..if you say..the lead up to the song? I think it was interesting writing and Abbas knew that people will expect a lot from him..hence he sets the tone with the “cheesy(according to you) cat meow”….for me there was no pretensions baap..it was sweet…anyways pnu tu rosgollae kha kha ke..saala tereko aur kuch meetha nahi lagta..lol!!!
interesting review..Jaane Tu Ya Jaane Na is easily a cliched movie of rich kids doing dumb things and we really dont care if it is love or friendship..
It seems to me that so producers/directors get a pass from reviewers. If this movie were not an Aamir Khan production directed by Abbas Tyrewala, then it would not be getting as much praise. If this had been a YRF movie, it would not be rated so highly. Yet again we get an overrated cliched movie like JWM. There is nothing ‘fresh’ about it as some reviewers claim. I’m about to give up on BW movies which I’m now finding to be repetitive.
an overdose of cuteness and idiocracy. was quite annoying. but, i’ve sat thru even worse movies.
Came out smiling and the smile lasted till I went to the car park. I can understand if someone is disappointed with the film because of the name(s) involved, but I really cant see why this film could be boring to anybody.
The film does not take itself seriously…there is a character which says in the beginning of the film that it has an airport climax!!
And if you do not find this airport climax hilarious, there is something seriuosly wrong with you.
industry’s one of best n most sought after writer goes and makes his debut with one of the most clched story - m not complaning.
aamir khan productions made two films that no other producer will dare to produce and in third one, its back to formula - fine.
if its with debutants,it has to be romantic film - m still not complaining
if its romantic film, it has to be about college kids - ya
and if its college romance film, it has o be about the confusion of friendhip n love - ok ok!!!
but to laugh at soo-shant n jignesh n kutta-billi’s death, seriously something is wrong with me. btw, those of u who enjoyed all this must chcek out those khicchdi n ba bahu baby n hundred other shows on tv where there is lot of gujju humor. m just bored. not one more time. may be he played it safe cz its his first film. then m waiting for his second.
btw, hav u guys seen de talli ? its written by abbas and its the same formula there. uglu,paglu,tiglu, love, frindship,confusion n pet talks. if not, do watch it n let me know. its not my fault that i saw de talli before jaane tu.
@vidya - pfc is open forum for everything thats cinema. one post and dont put us in pigeon hole. if u dont agree, u hav all the freedom to express your views and u can also write here. do mail us at passionforcinema@gmail.com. n yes, i also loved om shanti om. if u search, can find the post here.
Hi Phoenixnu
I did not mean in a way to generalize based on just this article. I do remember an article (from Oz, I think?) who presented views on similar lines to what I had said about this mainstream-hatred..
This article (and a previous article on the same movie) seems like having been written with an intention of hating the movie right from the beginning. That was basically the point that I wanted to make.
And yeah, I did hate those cliched Gujju jokes and the dead cat scenes; I did hate the fact that Abbas got a little carried away and repeated the same humor device more than a few times: just the first time brought a smile (this blunder was more evident in Cheeni Kum). There was a lot of unevenness in his explaining inter-personal relationships in the movie. Some were extremely likeable while others did go flat.
But eventually, I came out of the theater happy that I watched a movie worth my time. And of course, this is my opinion and you too have the right to yours; it is just that I would have loved it if you could have analyzed it with an unbiased mind..
@vidya, i dont hav any evidence to prove that i entered the theatre with an unbiased mind. and i wasnt expecting citizen ken. was just expecting a bit more sensible n mature film from the guy who has written so mnay good films. as i hav said earlier, i love sochna na tha and it cracks the same thought beautifully. but cud not connect with jaane tu at all. whats wrong in expecting something good from a person who has done some good work earlier. and more so, cz its the same abbas who wrote something like this….
Surely you’re joking, Mr.Kashyap.”
http://abbas-tyrewala.sulekha.com/blog/post/2001/08/surely-you-re-joking-mr-kashyap.htm
You carried the torch, my naïve friend. And they pissed on it.
Remember that silly high jump contest in school, where you had to jump and make a chalk mark on the wall? You were my wall. A wall for me to scale. Every achievement of mine was secret chalk mark I made to gauge my efforts against yours. And now, there are crimson spittle stains on the wall.
Eleanor Roosevelt carried this prayer in her purse during the Second World War:
Dear Lord
Lest I continue
My complacent way
Help me to remember
Somewhere out there
A man died for me today
– As long as there be war
I then must ask and answer
Am I worth dying for?
There is a war being fought today. A war that few know about and even fewer care about. It is the war to preserve a modicum of intelligence in Hindi cinema. It is the struggle to nurture the remnants of creative integrity and expression in the largest film industry in the world. The warriors are the people who dare to defy market bromides, formulae and mantras, who dare to create and express on their own terms, for their own desperate, passionate need to make films.
Films, not proposals. Films, not marketing vehicles. Films, not an ensemble of stars performing an elaborate music video.
The enemy is an Axis of omnipotent but anonymous allies.
When Manmohan Desai asserted that his formula was one ‘item’ every ten minutes, was he aware that he was playing Frankenstein? Did he recognize the monstrosity he was unleashing upon the industry he so loved and came to symbolize?
The inheritors of Manji’s legacy forgot that ‘items’ are mean to garnish and enhance the content of a film, not replace it. They replaced it. ‘Fight scenes’ replaced human drama, ‘melodrama’ replaced motivation, ’songs’ replaced exposition, ‘comedy tracks’ replaced comic insights and Hindi cinema was reduced to a rugby joke.
The Axis also involves the Viewer. Reluctantly and because they were offered no alternatives, the Viewer gave up. He not only got accustomed to the repetitive inanities of Bollywood, he actually came to enjoy it. But this ally of the brain-dead retained a conspiratorial connection with the Light Brigade. The fathers of mainstream cinema scratched their heads in confusion when Ardh Satya ran for twenty-five weeks and Ankush opened to full houses. And how could Shyam Benegal keep making films? Obviously, someone was paying money to watch these films, but who?
The answer was never revealed. The Resistance stayed underground, surfacing every odd Friday for a guerilla attack on benumbed sensibilities.
Slowly, the Resistance gained in strength, putting up their posters openly and actually releasing films like Parinda, Roja, Satya, Hyderabad Blues, Terrorist and Zubeida. The enemy panicked. The Viewer was of course the principle ally. If the Viewer once again got used to intelligent films, where would that leave us: We, the Showmen? We, the Dream Makers? We, the Sellouts?
But the Axis had one more ally. More powerful than any other. An antediluvian monster that forgot to die, and was institutionalized by the moral brigade. The Censor Board.
An image from ‘The Fountainhead’ has always haunted me. You are locked in a room with a malevolent monster, diseased and salivating and vicious. He is going to kill you. You have no weapons to fight it. Your only hope for survival is to appeal to its reason, to its intellect — to explain to it that it will achieve nothing by killing you. But the monster has no faculty for reason. It has no intellect. It will kill you.
I met Anurag Kashyap in 1995 when I was working part time in Crest Communication and instantly hated him for having started writing before me. I played safe: I worked as a copywriter for a year and as a creative consultant for a TV company, while all the time dying to write movies. Anurag shrugged at such notions of financial security. When I finally took the plunge, Anurag had already written Satya, Kaun and Shool.
He was actually writing the kind of subjects that I dreamed and fantasized about. People were paying him money to write them, making films based on them.
I watched his films with vicious intent, rejoicing everytime a line sucked or scene fell flat. I didn’t care about more successful or better known writers. All my hatred and envy was reserved for Anurag because I understood his work. My hatred was based on respect. My hatred was based on love. Of course, I didn’t know it then.
Imagine, then, my chagrin when Anurag was signed on to direct a film even before I had had my first release as a scriptwriter. And fathom my frustration when he signed me on to pen the lyrics. The gumption of the man! I was so angry, I wrote the best damn lyrics ever in my life, determined to outshine the brilliance of the director with my poetic heroism, like a desperate sub-plot trying to distract from the main narrative.
I expected to be thrown out after the very first attack. But every assault of mine was met with enthusiastic — no, excited — deliriously excited reactions from Anurag. He loved every song I wrote. The courage of this man. The heroism!
Until I realised, one day, that it was not courage at all. It was innocence. An innocence that was completely unaware of my intentions. He wanted to make a film, a good film, a great film if possible, and he saw my vicious attacks as genuine contributions to the film’s welfare. Childlike in his intentions, he suspected no malice in mine. How do you defeat a man who is unaware that you are raging a battle against him with everything that you do, everything that you have? I gave up. Anurag almost won.
Almost. At the last minute, the Censor Board launched its secret weapon.
Anurag screened Paanch for this Jurassic wonder. At the end of the screening, a man who I believe is a primary school teacher called Anurag in and asked him what cinema meant to him. Anurag asked in turn what it meant to him and the man replied, without blinking an eyelid, that it meant ‘healthy entertainment’. Healthy entertainment, according to Masterji, was absent in Paanch. He asked why there were no ‘positive characters’ in the film. Obviously it would have been a complete waste of time to explain the concept of a noir film to the gentleman; Anurag explained instead that all the characters were to him positive to some degree.
The gentleman then suggested that the film was too violent.
I have seen Paanch. Its wizardry lies in creating a sense of violence without its explicit depiction. The film gets under your skin, creates the kind of dirty residue that normally remains in the aftermath of a street fight. Instead, Teacher Rex felt that this film glorifies violence. Anurag asked for specific scenes that had bothered the Board, which he was willing to defend and delete if necessary. No instances were forthcoming; the man was too busy objecting to the language now.
Then came the piece de resistance. The man said that the film was too long for a thriller. He arbitrarily asked Anurag to trim it by forty minutes! Too long for a thriller. Oh Anurag, I wish I had been there to see your face. The joy it would have given my aching heart to see your initial lack of comprehension, then the rage and then the helplessness; the intense desire to ask this gentleman where he kept his cane so you could put it where it belonged. Too long for a thriller. Marvelous!
Maybe Once Upon A Time In America should have been cut down from four and a half to two hours. Oh wait a minute, they did. And reduced a classic to a schizophrenic collection of visuals. Isn’t Bertolucci’s 1900 too long for an epic? Well, it does encompass the story of a century, so I guess it can stretch to five hours. And thank God cricket matches last an entire day, or else Lagaan would have had to be trimmed by an hour or so.
But a thriller! What in a thriller justifies two hours and forty-five minutes? Your story? Your development of characters? Your plot? Your choice?
Surely you’re joking, Mr.Kashyap.
At the end of it all, Anurag Kashyap was refused certification for his film.
Fortunately, he reserves the right to appeal to a Revising Committee and subsequently even to the Judiciary. I hope that the idiocy that characterized his recent ordeal will not mark the subsequent process of rectification.
Is Paanch too long a film? I think so. Anurag doesn’t. Is Paanch a great film? I don’t know. Who decides?
The Viewer. Only the goddamn Viewer and no one else.
I have seen the herculean effort that went into creating this film. I have seen the heartbreak, the conflicts, the highs and lows, the delirium and the genius that marked the process. I was present in the studio when Anurag kissed everyone in sight, including myself, because he had no other way of conveying his delight at the song. I was present when Anurag kept pushing his agitated cinematographer to attempt a scene with almost no lights. I was fortunate enough to share the ride without running the risks. Anurag ran the risks. Paanch is a year of Anurag’s life.
And today, with the checkered flag in sight, a frustrated referee with no concept, no awareness of the medium is signaling an indefinite pit stop.
Let us not even dwell on some of the inanities, the obscenities and the regressive outrages that the Board has passed to date. These are not the reasons Anurag’s film deserves a certificate.
It deserves a certificate because he made a film with passion and with love.
If today, no voices are raised in protest, in defiance of this murderous monolith, then we lose forever the moral right to complain about the lack of intelligence, the absence of imagination and the dearth of heroes in Hindi cinema.
Ah! Now, you made your point. Probably this one did not come forth too clearly in your article..
(And, I do remember reading this article.)
“Sensible and mature film”
Well… that has to be a little off the rocker… partly because everyone knows its a comedy. And when it is a comedy, who expects good ol’ hera pheri in Indian cinema these days? Sure there might have been cliches, sure there is Soo-Shaant but then, definitely there is not one attempt of making us laugh over “the gadha on ghoda” painting [welcome] or ganja heroine or “my mum prayed for my first murder” sort of bullcrap.
There are cliches, but then, if we view it as a comedy, it surely is fresh. Thats the point Vidya made, the movie is not supposed to be what you expected. And I get the point, you share some sentiments that are expressed in that little article about Mr. Kashyap and Teacher-Rex.
I just do not seem to get the point - Paanch and Jaaney Tu? And no one I know has ever told me about sooShaant or meow or rats. Neither that nor the stupid feeling of belonging in Rats or meow. And hell yes… that coke on the rocks and the touch of sarcasm.. “chadh jaayegi”. Well thats doing the rounds.
From the looks of it, its not going down as lagey Raho or rang De Basanti. Not the least. But its a refreshing comedy. and none of the newly established comedy cliches. Just the old ones coup[le with attempts and successes at something new.
Hmm… I hope i made my point clear. Just because its AKP doesnt mean you have that critic’s eye on this one.
If its a cliche or a formula problem that we do not want to see, why dont we criticize Amir Khan? It was upto him to decide what the film was. When he decided it was a repeat of a formula, he made it look good. But what purists have a problem with is that Amir Khan shouldnt have repeated a formula. And thats what the point is.
Attack the latter. View the film just as it is. Pan it down for having cliches, pan it down for the song placements but c’mon! Give it a thumbs up for being better than the contemporaries.
oh sorry for that quote…
“Sensible and mature film”
that was phoenix saying.. “all I expected was a more sensible and mature film”
yes KK, thats the only criteria. everything around is so much shit that anything thats lil better is the best. and boxoffice report says it surely is on its way to become one of the biggest hits of the year.
Awesome post dude!!!
“It’s a world of rats, meow, boms, roltu, jiggy, shitty, potty, dicky, fucky and god knows what!!”
Hillarious!!! I laughed on this post more than any of those sad jokes in the movie!!
i haven’t seen this film, but the writer of the post seems to have liked “kuch kuch hota hai” and “om shanti om”. Then i don’t know why he is crying foul with this one. It’s very difficult to make a movie which is worse than the aforementioned duo (k2h2 & oso).
This was a good film .. enjoyable for most part …beyond that, what else do we need?
Beyond that, it is Abbas’ movie - he can decide whether he wants to make a cliche filled movie or anything else …so far, it does seem as if the movie has worked for more people than not.
[...] those of you, who liked the film, blame it on KK. Because after Jaane tu ya jaane na, which we hated, me and kk again saw this film together……Ya ya, we cinema snobs, [...]
the writer of this post shud go get a life…..he is the kinda guy who goes into a Chinese restaurant and orders Indian food, just for the sake of being patriotic.
Oh, I’m sorry Mr. Pheonixu, was that too cliched for you??? I have a darned good reply for every comment of yours, but I dont think u are gonna get it, beyond saving that u are.
“Autopsy Guru Dabba said – seriously guys, how great can a college romance be ?
Damn, he is right again.’
??????
I mean, seriously man….u sound like an 80 year old loser who never had any fun in his life….did u even GO to college??? I feel sad for u man, very, very sad.
And Cinema isn’t all about Scorcese and Bergman, sir….its much broader than u think it is.
I am sure you will be a great filmmaker, albeit a very depressing one. I sincerely wish you luck.
P.S - Ever thought about joining a laughter club? Makes u see the brighter side of life…..it really does, trust me…..