Kaun Banega Mera Pati
Every young woman dreams of a perfect marriage. There is a right time in your life to get married, to become a wife and mother. I am a cultured Indian woman with good values and I have reached a stage where I need a companion with whom I can share my love, joy, sorrow and success with. For me that time has arrived. However I want to solemnize my marriage in the presence of all my fans who have been supportive throughout — Rakhi Sawant
No, this post is not on Rakhi Sawant. In fact, I wanted to write this from quite sometime but her new reality show Rakhi Ka Swayamvar pushed me into writing it without further delay. I was just twiddling my thumb and wondering about all those actresses who are still single and what’s going on in their mind/heart. While we see that the guys entering the industry are mostly committed/married, the girls are still out there looking/thinking/choosing etc.
When Aamir Khan, SRK, Sunil Shetty etc entered the industry, they were married already. Then guys like Akshay Kumar, Bobby Deol, Fardeen Khan, Zayed Khan, Abhishek Bachchan, Hrithik Roshan etc also tied the know. In fact, right now except Salman from yester-years and Ranbir Kapoor from current generation are the only eligible bachelors. But just see this list of actresses and their ages mentioned [social faux pas, we can mention their weight but not their age] and you may wonder too, what are they waiting for!
Manisha Koirala – 38 yrs – Having made her debut in Saudagar, she had a great start to her career. But somewhere down the line she lost her way. She was briefly seen in Company, Lajja etc; but her last best work was a decade ago in Dil Se. She dated quite a few guys, but recently it has been reported that she is engaged to Christpin Conroy, the Australian ambassador to Nepal.
Nandana Sen – 41 yrs – D/o Amartya Sen – She made a late debut in movie industry and no one knows where he career is going. Firstly, I was shocked to know that she is in her early 40’s; I thought she was in mid 30’s. So, there you have it; 40+ and still single.
Tabu – 38 yrs – Her career had a late start, thanks to Prem getting delayed by 5 years. This child-artist who had acted alongside Dev Anand had to wait really long for her film debut. She finally made her mark with movies like Chandni Bar, Maqbool, Chini Kum etc. Yes, the chini is still kum in her life.
Urmila Matondkar – 35 yrs – Another child artist, first seen in Shashi Kapoor’s Kalyug and then in Masoom; she had a great time in the industry. With movies like Rangeela, Judaai, Kaun, Indian etc she had a nice run in BO; sh also earned critical acclaim for Pinjar and Maine Gandhi Ko Nahi Mara. But off-late looks like her career is ending the same way it started, spate of flops.
Lisa Ray – 37 yrs – She never belonged here, although she did rise to fame with Afreen video and movies like Kasoor, Bollywood Hollywood and Water. Wonder who her supermodel hubby is gonna be!
Mahima Chaudhary – 35 yrs – Making a grand debut in Subhash Ghai’s Pardes, she had to change her name from Ritu to Mahima, thanks to Ghai’s affinity for M. She was involved with Leander Paes for quite a long time, but once he married Rhea Pillai, Mahima was shattered. That’s when she ended up signing all those crass movies like Home Delivery, Souten etc and was seen making indecent exposure. She deserves better, hope she gets it.
Preity Zinta – 34 yrs – She is one brave woman, coming from army background and not back-tarcking on her statements in court, she has lived the life she has wanted to. She was really good in whatever she did, even IPL. She is in a long relationship with Ness Wadia and she has never hidden that, hats off to her. But, we all are waiting for the official ceremony.
Nagma – 34 yrs – She tried her luck in Hindi movies, when it did not work out well she went down-South and created waves with Kadhalan, Love Birds etc. But she too lost her way, joined Art Of Living; she is still somewhere learning to live, living to learn.
Sushmita Sen – 33 yrs – One of the most out-spoken actresses and she started the trend of not hiding anything and being open to the world, whether it was the relationships she had with married men or the adoption of a girl-child whom she named Rene, meaning ressurrection. Wish she finds a nice guy and ressurrects her life.
Shilpa Shetty – 33 yrs – I have already written about here, click here. All I can say is that, its not over till the official ceremony is performed.
Rani Mukherjee – 31 yrs – She was a winner all the way, starting with KKHH. She did some fabulous work in Black, Saathiya etc, but now she is struggling with her last few movies not doing well. She also had to come clean on Adi Chopra when people/media suspected that she secretly married him. Hope she finds someone the way her cousin Kajol did, and settle down.
The list is quite long and it will get boring if I start listing out everybody. But I do think that there is a right time for everybody when they have to make a call. Madhuri Dixit, Sridevi, Meenakshi Shehsadri etc have done it in the past; retire gracefully or at least retreat and take some time off for themselves and concentrate on personal life. By the way, I am not getting judgemental or overly concerned about it. It was just a thought, so please do take it the right way.
Tags: Actress, bachelor, spinster
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nice write-up Rals. the reality show of rakhi sawant looks / sounds like another cheap gimmick on rakhi’s / show-producer’s part to make hay while the sun shines, coz the clouds are looming large over rakhi’s career…
not nitpicking, but guess mahima chaudhary is already married.. just check out. cant remember the name of the guy, but i guess it was discussed on that post on PFC where we were discussing “kahan gaye woh log”…
@Crazyrals
Bollywood treats it’s female actors(read heroines)like heroin ,it’s something that provides ecstacy ,a temporary high and then you throw it away just like an object ,just as you need to have a collective ownership of an object to keep the interest in that alive ,we too need to have our share of unmarried female actors.
Which is why when females cross the 35+ age boundary we expect them to get married and retire while 40+ heroes make hay by being paired opposite 20 something actresses.
This is our shameful open secret ,and no one even flinches about it ,it’s also partly the result of the roles that these female actors play in their prime ,that of glam dolls ,which is why when they reach 35+ they can no longer pull off that role and are expected to retire ,while if you look at the career of people like Shabana Azmi and Smita Patil and lately Tabu ,they get movies with strong roles ,it’s like watching Meryl Streep again.
oye! mahima is married to some divorcee. she also has a kid. sorry bol. LOL.
title of article was catchy. i was wondering if u had gone g**. haha.
sorry guys, mahima is married to some bobby mukherjee….i wonder how i missed out on this info :(
@Vineet: sorry dude, i dont agree with u tat bollywood treats heroines in a particular way.
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its the way the actresses handle themselves that such a situation arises.
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2 cases tat i recall are ayesha jhulka and mahima. the way they threw the career by getting involved
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even now u have the likes of sharmila tagore, dimple kapadia, rekha, hema malini etc who can act, but they just refuse to act unless a big banner signs them or eggs them on or writes something specific for them. else they sit on an ivory tower.
@Satyendra: yes, rakhi’s show is a gimmick…publicity stunt. even if she were to get married i wonder how long tat marriage wud last
i am writing this in short.
this is about young bachelor ppl.
The starting attraction of love, or a minute romantic feeling which comes for an actress, is more when she is unmarried. And for married girls, we don’t have such feelings, bcoz we think, it is bad to have such feelings for them.
It is not good to have a poster of married actress in ur room.
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other unmarried actress, u r free to fall in love with them, or u can marry too. it’s ok, if she comes in ur dreams too.
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I am not telling this is the way, all actresses gets treated, or is it good, bad or ugly.
This is like, a bachelor goes in the party, and can treat married and unmarried girls in a different way.
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ok while watching movies, this is not the motive of ppl, but some young audience feels like this somewhere in their mind, for some actresses, in some scenes.
This is same, when u fall in love with someone else. one girl who u like in ur college-drama, bcoz she smiles in a different way, her eyes are beautiful, the way she speaks. u feel something in ur heart. But if u know, she is married, u won’t feel that in ur heart.
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This young audience is a big part of the total audience. so there u r.
I am not saying it is only abt body and glamour.
It is connection of hearts, and of romantic feelings.
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But same is not true for girls, they don’t care abt married/unmarried status, they have different type of romantic feelings. some of them, still say,’srk i want to marry u’. and noone says, ‘naseerudin i want to marry u,bcoz u r so good actor’.
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when some actresses evaluate that, her acting lovers are less, and lovers are more, she tries not to marry.
Nandana Sen 41 yrs….cant believe it!!!Always thought she was in her late 20’s or early 30’s.
May be this article would have best for shaadi.com.
I do not why it is important to get married at certain age.
Why does it bother you that our indian heroines get married or not.
@Cinemausher: it does not bother me, as already mentioned in the post.
also, biologically it becomes imperative that they marry at a certain age else the capability of having progenies reduces
@ Rals yes Mahima is indeed married.
But I’m surprised to know that Nandana Sen is indeed 41 – I mean she’ll probably give a lot of 40+ Hollywood actresses and models a run for their money as far as maintaining themselves is concerned
Of course even today Tabu carries herself gracefully & its a pity that she isnt doing much movies of late.
Rani & Preity are anyways in the big league & will continue to get some project or the other.
Nagma is doing well in Bhojpuri films, Lisa Ray as you mentioned wasnt anyways a conventional actress and yes Shilpa Shetty seems to have hit jackpot big time
I think Manisha’s moved on from Christpin Conroy- she’s someone who really doesnt know what she wants & here I’m being serious.
And finally Rakhi Sawant is one big nautanki who cant stay away from the limelight.But nevertheless
I admire her guts for being so bold
Dude, this is perhaps the first regressive article I’ve read on PFC. I thought this was a forum where gossip wasn’t encouraged. Is this the beginning of stardustization of PFC?
@Rals..
One of the wierd aricle I ever can expect in PFC.. i always thought of it a platform which share, care and aware of CINEMA in its most accurate state.. reading this article I was feeling mistakenly while switching channel I landed up in some cheap reality show.. I am yet to understand why it takes so much to broaden the view.. get out of ur chauvinistic attitude… if we need more of Kate winslet and Merryl streep.. we have leave aside the personal life of STARS and started treating them only an ACTRESS whome we know and bother only about their ACTING not their MARITAL STATUS …pheewww…
@Jitesh: plz explain wats so regressive abt this article? dont ppl wait with bated breaths who is gonna tie the knot with whom? weren’t ppl b**ching when ash married abhishek? wasn’t there a celebration wehn rajesh khanna married dimple kapadia? why is marriage a regressive thing???
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why shud this be termed as ’stardustization of PFC’??? wat i have written is factual, except for the mahima chaudhary stuff which i had probably overlooked.
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PFC is not for one brand of cinema or article. see the contrast, there is a post on Khursheed, an actress from the 40’s, there is a post on movie ‘run lola run’, there are 2 posts on shakti samanata paying tribute to him[i have written one of them], there is a post on martial arts movies etc …
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be a little open-minded, there is room for everybody and everything
@ScrapManic: relax, i do understand that some of ur fave actresses are on the list…take it easy
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while we discuss film, we can discuss film personalities too. if films can come under scanner, filmstars too can.
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where was i being chauvinistic? i have just poured down some thoughts, tats all. i have already written tat i m not overly concerned or bothered abt it, just a passing thought tat i put down. i was not being argumentative or judgemental, so take a chill-pill
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if wat u r saying is true, tat ppl shud look at their acting and not marital status then all tabloids and magazines wud shut shop
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my last line was, plz take it the right way; and i repeat, plz take it the right way :(
@crazyrals
who are concerned about the quality of this site can avoid it all together .I remember you poured your thoughts about some other celebrity as well ,ah I remember…it was Shilpa Shetty ,the post lasted for some 20 hours before being taken off…..
There should be a separate section in PFC in case some Author wants to just “pour down his/her thoughts” so that the more serious people
All those names you mentioned are yesteryear actresses who are past 55 and mostly do Maa-Aunty roles barring a few exceptions give me an example of a name that is 40+ and is not being asked to retire from lead role parts in movies ,also I myself named Shabana and Smita Patil ,…Our preferences have not changed at all ,heroines and Item girls are still imported from outside in masala flicks.
Why does SRK need to have a 21 something girl in Rab Ne and why does Aamir need a 22 year old girl in Ghajini ?….you will get the answers yourself.
@Rals,
Do you think people marry with only one sloe objective to have kids.
@Cinemausher: no, ppl dont marry just to make babies. they can adopt, as already mentioned in the case of sushmita sen. or they can have babies outside marriages too.
i was just pointing it out bcoz there is a right time, biologically….tats all
@Vineet: i mentioned those actresses of yester-years bcoz u mentioned meryl streep. and u branding them as ‘aunties’ shows ur chauvinism
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as an author i m concerned abt the quality of the site too, more than u. where were u when i wrote posts on diksha, subhash ghai, richard linklater etc. this post in no way degrades the quality of articles here. u just need to be a little broad-minded and tolerant.
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the post on shilpa shetty was not taken-off in 20 hrs as u said. when new artciles come-up, old ones keep going out. no article stays on PFC mainpage for ever. and no one tweaks around on purpose to elongate the stay of any article on mainpage. its a blog and i hope u know how blog works
I really liked this article. There is nothing “Stardust”y about it and it points to a really important dynamic in our modern times. Even the various and varied responses ran the gamut from enlightened to narrow minded. Ultimately, and I know my views won’t be popular, men and women do get treated differently in every forum, every profession. While a woman nearing 40s is told that she’s getting old, should change her look, must fix her life, a man is considered in the prime of his life.
Thanks Rals! Hope you write more of these pieces in the future. It’s sometimes good to stray a bit off the beaten path. It opens up the world, which even in a forum like this, can sometimes be too restricted…
@Nina: thanx for the appreciation and support. its come from unexpected quarter and very timely. i think ppl have a perception of PFC tat we cater only to particular brand of cinema or typical articles/posts. why cant we be more forthcoming and open to entertaining and informative stuff
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the social dynamics tat u mentioned is what i was driving at, i was not being judgemental.
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lastly, my only aim was to highlight this aspect of their lives. i m as curious as any other film follower as to whom they tie their knots with
How does mentioning Meryl Streep amount to chauvinism…..I was reminded of her because she has fought all her life to liberate women in cinema and always opposed sexist roles.
And yea PFC is a blog all right but I think we have already had a discussion regarding the quality of the content on the site ,PFC started as a forum to support thought provoking cinema ,and now if people start posting tabloid material on PFC doesn’t it defeat the purpose of it’s existence.
However this is my opinion and if the majority thinks otherwise then I can’t help it.
@Vineet: while i do value ur comment/opinion, i was just asking u to take this on a lighter vein. PFC need not always be about serious stuff. as already mentioned earlier, i have written posts on movies like diksha, about linklater’s works, i have paid tributes to shakti samanta and ar rehman, i have written couple of posts on gulaal, reviews of devd and straight, posts on aamir khan’s works etc..
there is a time for going easy, for the author as well as the reader. and plz, dont call this post a tabloid material. the content may have made u feel tat way, but the intention was not tat at all. i, as a fan of these actresses, would like to know/see whom they get married to; just curiosity, tats all. i have not written anything sensational or fabricated anything.
actually, this feedback pushes me to write better, thanx for tat.
i will try not to disappoint u in the future
And Nagma’s superstardom in Bhojpuri movies definitely deserves a line boss. Ke nahi?
I do not see Preity marrying Ness. Let’s see.
“retire gracefully…and concentrate on personal life” Rals!!! yeh kyaa likh diyaa. lol. just because an actress is above 30 years of age does NOT mean the only thing they are fit for is marriage or that they should “retire.” grrr! ab tum ek post likho about married actresses who are still acting/working :-)
@crazyrals
Am not against lighter stuff ,I liked Oz’s torture series so much that I had an RSS feed for it ,what I am saying is that entertainment should be creative.
This post is sexist. Your implication is that regardless of the hard work and achievements of these actresses, their life has no point unless they get married at the right age. Not cool man!! And that too on PFC!! **shock**horror**
Come on crazyrals..you have done better than this..:)
@Amanda: retire gracefully was meant with reference to better-not-act-than-do-crap movies
and concentrate on personal life was meant with reference to if-movies-not-working-at-least-concentrate-someplace-else. i recall neelam starting her jewelry/stones business and raveena tandon becoming cbfc chairman etc
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man…ppl are reading too much into posts
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married actress who are still working….nice… tab to PFC wale mujhe nikaal denge PFC se. this itslef has moved ppl into calling the post as shallow and ’stardustization of Pfc’ :D
@Neil: there is nothing sexist about this post. i see some of the female responders being much cooler towards this post than ur reaction
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i m not implying anything of the kind. but just have a look at madhuri, juhi chawla, meenakshi etc and u will know wat i meant. plz, i m not being judgemental at all. being a creative person myself, i wud not impose such restrictions on anybody. it was a broad-minded topic which has been read and commented by narrow-minded attitude
Sorry, rals, you might not have intended it to be so, but your post is coming across as sexist.
@Vee: time will tell boss, abt PZ
just kidding…
mai bhool gaya tha, abt her bhojpuri movies with ravi kishen and manoj tiwari
shayad issi ke baad usse art of living join karna pada
@crazyralsji
“it was a broad-minded topic which has been read and commented by narrow-minded attitude”
QFT.
Good post.
Did I miss something? Married actresses are still working Kajol, Ayesha, etc. and especially Aishwarya – check out her lineup of movies which I saw on another site where this topic was discussed:
Mani Rathnam -Raavana
Mani Rathnam – Ashokavanam
Shankar – Enthiran-The Robot
Vipul Shay – Action Replay
SLB’s – Guzaarish
Abhinay Deo – Crooked
Rituparno Ghosh’s next
Rajiv Menon – Dhun
Vishal Bharadwaj’s next
Maybe this will encourage other actresses to have a both a personal and professional life after marriage. Or maybe they just don’t want to get married at all. Marriage is not for everyone.
I do agree that BW is sexist and seems to want only young girls as heroines. Where are the mature relationships in movies? HW is bad too but at least they don’t put you out to pasture after 30. The most successful actresses in HW are in 30+.
BTW, some actresses like Rani, Tabu, Preity, etc may not be working due to their own personal choice. I’m sure they get offers even if not from big banners.
Nahi Nahi… AOL usne pehle join kiya tha, later she jumped onto Bhojpuri movies.. Lol.. AOL se usko shanti nahi mili lagta hai..
@Lee: other than ash, we do have examples like juhi chawla who keeps making nice cameo appearances as in kismat konnection, bhhotnath etc. madhuri wud have done more movies if aaja nachle wud have done well at BO. sonali bendre was seen in indian idol etc. there are numerous examples yaar. personal and prof life can co-exist, its not always this-or-that, it can be this this-and-that
@crazyrals 15
“weren’t ppl b**ching when ash married abhishek? wasn’t there a celebration wehn rajesh khanna married dimple kapadia? ”
I thought the reverse would have been true!
@ravi: either way dude… does not dilute the thought though.
@Jahanpanah: i m glad u liked the post, wish ppl cud at least be neutral to it :(
by the way, cud u expand QFT…not aware of it
This article is regressive, outdated.Well anyway i do not agree with your post or your points to defend yourself.
Take a look at comments secton, i think most of people disagree with you.
Thank god for the that.
Quite a well researched article. And like all good research, high on surprise element but practically useless :D
In Tasveer 8×10 they displayed ‘Mrs. Ayesha Takia Azmi’ which means she is married recently !
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The comment section depresses me. Does being in PFC means being self-pretentious snob with nil SOH? Sad.
~uh~
To get a glimpse of the future of Indian television, consider these two news items:
1. Rakhi Sawant has announced a new reality show on NDTV Imagine in which she will begin “a nationwide search for her perfect husband along with the support of the audiences.” Fifteen dudes will be shortlisted, and at the end of the season, she will marry one of them. (If the marriage doesn’t last and the show is a success, she could do it again next year.)
2. A study has revealed that Varun Gandhi has “emerged as the new favourite of prime time TV news in the past two weeks.” After his controversial comments against Muslims, he “managed to achieve 22.57 hours of prime time coverage across six prominent channels,” about 9 hours more than the IPL, which was the second-most talked about topic.
You know where all this is going, don’t you? Yes, I hereby propose that Varun Gandhi be enticed to take part in the NDTV Imagine show, Rakhi Ka Swayamvar. He is eligible and from a noted family, she is voluptuous and hunting for a groom, and they both generate TRPs like cows generate milk. (Don’t ask why that image came to mind.) Also, it will keep the man out of politics, and the country needs that.
Courtsey- http://indiauncut.com/iublog/article/move-over-heer-ranjha
I’m sorry, but I am not sure what the point of the article is. If you were to make a comparison on how the industry treats male versus female stars or if you were to talk about how their status impacted their work, it might make sense… but to just list these women, their movies, various liaisons and their age??
You offer all the caveats that you are not being judgmental, but you start with a sanctimonious quote from Sawant – nowhere do you disagree with her. So by quoting her, you are implicitly agreeing to the statement that “cultured” Indian woman with “good values” must get married. Huh??
And then it goes on –
“-you may wonder too, what are they waiting for!” – yes, you may wonder if you have nothing better to do. Why should anyone wonder? What happened to respecting personal boundaries?
- “Firstly, I was shocked to know that she is in her early 40’s; I thought she was in mid 30’s. So, there you have it; 40+ and still single.” There you have it – what’s wrong with the woman?? Speechless.
- “Wonder who her supermodel hubby is gonna be!” Yep, that’s what we’re here for, to wonder about that. [I'll call it out so it is clear - that was sarcasm. It's a theme that will repeat frequently in my comment b/c I am so astounded and stunned to read this.]
- ” but once he married Rhea Pillai, Mahima was shattered…” And let’s discuss her personal despair too, shall we?
- “But, we all are waiting for the official ceremony.” So kind of you – maybe you should go the next step and find her a man yourself?
- “But she too lost her way, joined Art Of Living; she is still somewhere learning to live, living to learn.” Another one that left me speechless…
- “Wish she finds a nice guy and ressurrects her life.” Yes, because it is only with a nice guy that she can resurrect her life. Otherwise all hope is truly lost. Lost, I tell you!
- “…its not over till the official ceremony is performed.” Do you want her to get married or are you wishing for some drama for another article?
- “Hope she finds someone the way her cousinKajol did, and settle down.” Yes, that Kajol, such a good, clean cut girl. Let’s hope this poor child also finds someone and settles down shall we?
Finally, you end with “By the way, I am not getting judgemental or overly concerned about it”. Really? Not judgmental? What would you call all of those statements above. And pray tell, what do they have to do with cinema?
Pretty regressive buddy…i felt like i was reading some gossip magazine..who the fuck cares if mentioned actresses are married or not…BTW Home Delivery was not a crass movie…and it takes guts to make a spoof of yourself…dunno why u found Mahima’s act obscene in Home Delivery
I agree with Shipriya on everything.
Rals, dont worry, try a more constructive post next time, something with a reason or a motive.
Dont let bad posts bring you down. It’s cool.
@Jehan Handa: thanx for ur support, but i dont consider this a bad post. every post finds its audience, and there were some ppl who liked this post. not everyone has gone slam-bang on this
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while i do agree tat the nature of this post has been tabloid-type, but not the intent
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good or bad, i dont let things affect me tat easily. see, i have already posted my new article on jim jarmusch movie: http://passionforcinema.com/broken-flowers-jim-jarmusch
had no clue about this post. few colleagues who follow pfc asked him who is ths “crazy” guy ? wondered why and was told about this post. seriously, wtf is this….m all for non-sensical fun but kuch toh baat ho yaar…crazyrals…u need to be in news too…and my recco for you is india tv!!
@Shripriya: i m glad tat u have done a point-to-point rebuttal of my post. i m so glad tat u read between the lines, in fact u read stuff tat i had not even written
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i cud have used sarcasm in my post, but i did not. bcoz its not a tabloid; it was like something clicked and i wanted to bring it out.
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instead of taking it positively tat this is a list of eligible spinsters, u have turned the entire thing on its head.
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i m not using rakhi sawant as a yardstick at all, nor am i endorsing her opinion. i have not even written abt her.
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regarding nandana sen, it was more like a pleasant surprise tat she had hit 40. she doesn’t look 40 at all, but u chose to concentrate on the ’still-single’ phrase
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supermodel hubby was not a taunt at all; most of the times ppl find someone in their own field of interest/hobby. maybe i generalized, but i was not being sarcastic. i have lisa ray wallpapers on my pc, why wud i deride her?
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so…are filmstars so sacrosanct that we cant discuss their personal life? doesn’t personal life affect professional life? plz check mahima’s filmography and u will notice the obvious fall in her talent and choice of movie
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abt nagma…wtf is wrong here. we all are learnign something new everyday. i have done a weeks of AOL too, so? tat hasn’t taught me how to live! see, u r reading too much into it
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waiting for official ceremony…bcos if u recall karishma was engaged to abhishek with much fanfare. wat happened??? the engagement broke! u r just picking up random lines and twisting it to ur advantage
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usage of ressurect was done twice to make it sound poetic. sush is my fave film personality, i have liked her since 1994. i liked the fact that she adopted a kid so early in life and she even said tat the guy she chooses has to accept the kid as well. i compliment tat.
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i was expecting this kind of backlash bcos there are narrow-minded and chauvinistic ppl who would respond to it, tats why the disclaimer. and yet i get these silly comments.
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last example….
a woman without her man is incomplete
a woman, without her man, is incomplete
a woman without her man, is incomplete
a woman, without her, man is incomplete
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3 ways of interpreting a single line, plz read again with all the punctuations correctly then show me a mirror :(
@phoenixnu: much as i respect u, plz dont downgrade me and recomment india tv. plz take another look at the post and the comments tat have followed. i have neither sensationalized anything nor derided anyone. its their personal choice, when they enter/exit the industry, whom they marry/divorce; its none of my business.
i was being a mere observer to such facts and tried to say as less i cud abt everybody. i tried my best to be objective, but the intention was not to hurt anyone.
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regarding the ‘being in news’ and ‘ppl getting to know abt some crazy guy’…i recall a song from sanjay dutt’s gumrah:
jabse mai thoda badnaam ho gaya
ram kasam mera bada naam ho gaya :D
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johnny walker ka tagline…keep walking…
Clearly we are talking at cross purposes. Why is a list of eligible spinsters on PFC anyway?
Why are we discussing gossip – who cares if Karishma and Abhishek were engaged? I mean… we’re descending into conjecture about whether a marriage is going to happen? That is such an invasion of privacy and decency.
I am not picking random lines and twisting it. Instead of requoting the whole thing, I just picked the ones that seemed most egregious to me.
You have a right to post what you want, but please see how many people are offended and find it regressive. You can conveniently brand everyone who’s offended as narrow-minded, or you can examine what you’ve written. Up to you.
@crazyrals…
I did not see any objectivity in your article..at all!!
If I take this as a subjective honest post..it would make more sense…:)
I am all for honest post…but this was slightly tabloid-ish.
And just to be clear, crazyrals – my comments are about this post and not about you (the person)
@Shripriya: i have examined what i have written, and if u have seen my comments i have accaepted tat the post seems to veer towards tabloid-ism. i have conceded the fact tat it may have hurt a few ppl, but the thing is tat the commentors are taking themselves too seriously. this was not meant to be a post where one sweats over.
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talking abt karishma-abhishek is neither an invasion of privacy nor indecency. they got engaged in full public view and it was known to everyone. it was not a reporter’s scoop. if i had spoken abt abhi-ash wedding or aamir-kiran wedding then it may have been invasion of privacy coz not many got to witness it.
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also, whether u accept it or not and whether u like it or not, marriage is a social event too. ppl look forward to it. i know guys who were depressed when ayesha takia or madhuri dixit tied the knot and i have heard of women going crazy when abhi took the pheras and when rajesh khanna got married during the peak of his career.
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lastly, if we can discuss movies then we should discuss even about people who make the movies. how is it possible tat i talk abt sholay and not mention tat amitabh got married during the time sholay was being made. as mentioned before, they are in public gaze and their existence is not sacrosanct. wats this double standard that we pay a tribute to someone’s works and not mention anything abt their personal lives. why???
That’s why it is called public and private. Their careers = public. Personal lives = personal. You support the paparazzi’s point of view where anyone in the public domain automatically loses their right to a confidential private life. I vehemently disagree with that.
Anyway – let’s agree to disagree. Otherwise we can continue for another 10 comments.
I think, ppl are over-reacting here, and calling this article regressive etc. etc.
If he was talking abt specific actresses only, then it might have been bad or tabloid type. But he found a surprising pattern, so it makes me curious too.
What if we find, that all female directors are marrying late, or sportswoman r marrying late, but male ppl are marrying early. Or in few profession it happens with big numbers.
If we don’t discuss abt specific names, and abt their private lives with name.
Then it is not bad to discuss and analyze such things, afterall it is related to a field.
As sometimes i wonder, that there are so many genius writers/directors , genius artists, why do they too fail in love. and once they are claiming that they know love, and they are in love, and after few months, they get separate so easily.
It is not bad to think abt psychology of a special group, as long as we are not going after a particular person only.
@Shripriya: see, there u go misinterpreting me again. i do not support paparrazzi culture. in fact, in my comment i have clearly written tat if i had spoken abt abhi-ash or aamir-kiran and reporters forcing themselves in, then it wud have been invasion of privacy.
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its personal life alright, but if they choose to invite media for the marriage or photoshots then nothing wrong. amrita arora got married recently, she did not hide it or run away from cams
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i dont mind another 10 comments if it can convince each other of something or bring us to a concensus. i see tat u have been consistently been misinterpreting/misunderstanding me; while i do totally understand ur pov
@AB. : yes, i was trying to point to a certain pattern and some social dynamics as mentioned by Nina[cmnt#22]
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i did not randomly start keying-in. i did mention cases of actors in the industry as well
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ppl chose not to read tat bcoz feminism is in vogue and they think tat they can make a few downgarde statements and call me regressive and hence show themselves in good light and brush the entire stuff under the carpet in the guise of women’s lib; wat a farce!
@ AB
“I think, ppl are over-reacting here, and calling this article regressive etc. etc.”
A lot of people are reacting the same manner..that does not amount to over reacting.
“But he found a surprising pattern, so it makes me curious too.”
What is the pattern?
I think you are totally thinking on different plane..psychology!!
@ crazyrals
“ppl chose not to read tat bcoz feminism is in vogue and they think tat they can make a few downgarde statements and call me regressive and hence show themselves in good light and brush the entire stuff under the carpet in the guise of women’s lib; wat a farce!”
You are digressing..you are playing the sexist card..wrong zone.Most of the comments to your posts are not sexist related but the content of the post.At least thats the case with me
Yes, crazyrals, you are always understanding but I am misunderstanding you and misrepresenting you.
You state, #55 “as mentioned before, they are in public gaze and their existence is not sacrosanct. wats this double standard that we pay a tribute to someone’s works and not mention anything abt their personal lives. why???”
In that comment, you didn’t caveat IF they choose to bring the public into their personal lives. You only did that in the next comment, #58. Correct?
So then my reaction to #55 where I said your approach was paparazzi like is spot on. My view is their private existence IS sacrosanct. They choose to act, not open their home life to you. Respect that boundary. If they choose to invite the media in, that’s their choice.
I can’t convince you of anything b/c you will just over more “clarifications” to what you meant and insist I’m misinterpreting you while you understand me perfectly. You don’t understand what I’m trying to say and I don’t understand what you’re trying to say. Let’s leave it at that. I am.
offer, not “over”
@Shripriya: [you are always understanding but I am misunderstanding you and misrepresenting you]… sarcasm does not help, believe me. it makes things more bitter. my cmnt # 55, u again read too much into it, thats why i had to clarify in cmnt # 58. it actually looks like i should write a statement with all clauses covered up, else u will pull up another stmt or a loose-ended comment and like an expert lawyer throw it right on my face.
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if tats how its gonna be than i rather agree to disagree than continue further
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i was hoping tat this be interesting, but i dont see it going tat direction. i thought i had fully explained myself and answered all ur concerns in cmnt # 50, but then …. anyways…
@Sourav Bhuyan: very few ppl have taken it the right way, AB and few others included. the last line of my post was ‘take it the right way’ :D
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its almost like murphy’s law: if things have to go wrong they will
@Crazyrals: comment # 59 where you say, “ppl chose not to read tat bcoz feminism is in vogue and they think tat they can make a few downgarde statements and call me regressive and hence show themselves in good light and brush the entire stuff under the carpet in the guise of women’s lib; wat a farce!”
I would be grateful if you help me understand this comment. In my opinion, you have undone all your explanations with that line. But I will be happy to be proved wrong.
This is definitely regressive and sexist. Because what comes across explicitly is that you think that there is some sort of right age for someone to get married and that it is imperative for a woman to get married. What if all these women actually don’t want to get married?
Is that so hard to comprehend?
@ Dewi
“What if all these women actually don’t want to get married?”
Exactly. Spot on.
““What if all these women actually don’t want to get married?”
Assumptions again..
@Kenny and Dewi
You guys need to watch RNBDJ(again?) to understand ki ek ladki kya chaahti hai.
Neeraja
To know ki ek ladki kya chahti hai,
1. I will never watch RNBDJ again. You’d have to pay me in four figures.
2. It’ll take a lifetime. And by the time I think I know it, I’ll probably have one foot in the grave. That said, I never stop trying
Wow dude. Mindblowing article. Full of insight. Which RSS shakha do you belong to ? I love it that you put women in their place. Please write a post on Pati Parmeshwar next.
Nobody takes Aditya Chopra seriously :(
@crazyrals
“i know guys who were depressed when ayesha takia or madhuri dixit tied the knot and i have heard of women going crazy when abhi took the pheras and when rajesh khanna got married during the peak of his career.”
You mean you have friends…ACTUAL FRIENDS who were depressed? I have only heard of such things.
yayaver @44
That India Uncut article is hilarious. Thanks for sharing.
“wats this double standard that we pay a tribute to someone’s works and not mention anything abt their personal lives. why???”
How is that a Double Standard??
So what you are saying is if I’m talking about Amartya Sen’s work & not discuss how hot Nandana Sen is, I have double standards?
Lets leave their private lives to Page 3 & TV channels.
@Mainak: restricting to only cmnt#76, if we discuss amartya sen’s work we ought to talk abt his personal life, abt his wife and kids. but as again, rhetoric being the mood, u go out of ur way to bring out a stupid point tat if i write abt amartya sen then shud i talk abt his daughter being hot :D
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where in my post have i gone out of my way and made a contrived stmt?? plz point it out…
@Mainak: regarding cmnt#74, i said i know of ppl; i did not say my friends were depressed. plz learn to distinguish and not make such wild assumptions, knowing someone does not make them my friends.
@Mitch: plz avoid getting personal and ridiculously cheap…which RSS shakha???
if u have anything +ve/-ve abt the post then put tat down, not personal remarks :D
This is way too much……..such a post getting 79 comments……OMG ,tells us why Tabloids and Rags sell so much ,and why no one watches Mrinal Sen….
someone write an article about basics of cinematography.
crazyrals, I’m eagerly awaiting your reply to Subrat’s excellent question (#66).
Vineet (#80) – comments are b/c so many of us are stunned by this article. At least speaking for myself…
I’m quite shocked that Nandana Sen is 41?! She looks fab for her age! Go girl!
@Vineet
“tells us why Tabloids and Rags sell so much ,and why no one watches Mrinal Sen….”
Illogical!
wtf is this post supposed to say??does it try to say that it’s criminal not to marry if u r a woman and 30+…or does it try to say dat single womaen are alone and friendless….and need moral and familial….and wat not support from a guy…..aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!this was so damn agitating
bas ho gaya yaar… move on… the author never claimed that this is a life-changing self-help article… chill guys… shit happens… please don’t start the bra-burning agitation…
“and you may wonder too, what are they waiting for!”
and “you” say this post is not judgmental! Brilliant!
End of confusions…the post is all about the available actress who are in late 30s. So all the guys, start feilding for them…cos after couple of years, they wont find anybody….Chances are they can choose you (the way maddona has chosen a guy half of her age.
So your time starts now.
~Ashu
@rals: The post is so “MAYAPURI” and “FILMI KALIYAN” type.
Ashu
““ppl chose not to read tat bcoz feminism is in vogue and they think tat they can make a few downgarde statements and call me regressive and hence show themselves in good light and brush the entire stuff under the carpet in the guise of women’s lib; wat a farce!””
I like this one :-)
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Many ppl think, this is actress’s personal lives, and why shud u point out abt that marriage thing. they are free to marry whenever they want, and u r trying to force them into marriage, or u will call them wrong.
Some stories,movies abt heroines, or some articles i read abt movie-production, there producers/directors tell heroines not to marry, or don’t choose a married actress as heroine.
So i think, marry or not to marry, is not actresses’s own freedom. If they want to play a central character, as a heroine, who dances,romances, flirts, they want to be unmarried for that.
I thought, women will try to discuss this article more, bcoz it may seem that actresses are doing what they want, marry or not to marry, but they are not free to choose. Ppl shud write some good material abt it, and shud made audience aware of it. Because it is fault of audience.
When i read Amitabh’s blog, or other stories related to actors, that they are busy ppl, and so many retakes, wrong time-tables, and when they are taking break, fans want their autograph etc. this doesn’t make them relax.
Or when i read, that certain movies were low budget movie, and still they came up with good material.
Directors’ problems, music director’s problem, singer’s problem.
After reading all these things, i respect these ppl more, and i criticise them less now. i am aware of their problems too.
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If i am interested in reading a biography of actor,singer, director. Or if i am interested in knowing how a director, actor goes through his daily life. how does he balances his life.
As long as i am not trying to force them, or going after certain actor without his permission or against his will, then i think, i am not doing anything wrong.
I think, this article was not specially abt one actress, sushmita,nandita,rani etc.
It was a general article abt actors. And whereas many actors marry so soon, why don’t actresses do the same. So why it is bad to discuss that in our movie industry, actresses are being treated badly.
@Alas!, Yeah, That’s What…Shit Happened And Whilst Clearing It He (Crazyrals) Did Shit More. Much More Stinkier This Time I Tell You…
@Valuable-Junk.
Making a Full Bold post and writing in this insulting way , and doing such personal attack, without explaining anything.
I am learning a lot from this forum. how to insult someone intelligently and appear as an intellectual person.
This article was not bad, but many ppl here made this bad. becoz they focussed on negative things, and tried to find and elaborated the weaknesses.
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I don’t understand, why many women here think that Actresses are not marrying becoz they don’t want to. From my knowledge, i know that they are being forced by audience,directors,producers.
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@70 Neeraja.
“You guys need to watch RNBDJ(again?) to understand ki ek ladki kya chaahti hai.”
Wow, so the writers there, cracked this code.
Is RNBDJ , PFC-approved ?
I watched that movie, till SRK went to dance class. Now i will try to watch it full. so that i can understand what does a girl (every girl) want.
That girl, married a guy, and told him clearly after marriage, that i don’t love u, and stay away from me. why did she marry then ?
Well i will watch again. and will write then.
@ AB
“@70 Neeraja.
“You guys need to watch RNBDJ(again?) to understand ki ek ladki kya chaahti hai.”
Wow, so the writers there, cracked this code”
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There’s a word called ’sarcasm’. Look it up
ok sir, i looked it up. at merrium-webster.
1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
2: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual.
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yeah, i have seen lots of sarcastic comments here in most of the articles.
i am learning.
Rakhi sawant kee ki jay ho,laddu char kachouri chey ho…What a discussion sirji…
@AB, Making it bold is my choice and reading it ‘like I am shouting’ by making it bold is obvious. SO, no frets there as it wasn’t referenced to any in particular.
I said he is shitting and the more he shits it gets stinkier, what’s there to explain anything clearer. eh?
Please do learn from PFC or from any goddamn site as ‘Per you, they are the ONLY last things available to learn things from’. Haha. All The Best.
I wonder what others might be yelling-
rals! come out to play aye. :D
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This one post has caught up in flame war. Its better to leave it here:-)
@Subrat, Shripriya: i don’t think cmnt#66 needs to be explained, its self-explanatory. but wat i wud like to clarify is tat, the comments started on the wrong foot. readers took it the wrong way and commented negatively on it. from thereon, whoever read the post took it upon themselves to espouse the cause of women actress and called the post regressive. and after tat, everyone started supporting tat [feminism is in vogue] without seeing the merit of the post or even without reading other commentors who were pretty neutral to it.
this is how the comments section becomes longer than the main post. i have had to explain every sentence with a paragraph
@AB. : i m learning too pal :D
with u on this…
@Valuable-Junk: yes, the more i tried to swim out of it, the more i gut sucked into the whirlpool
better usage of words plz :D