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Laaga Yashraj Ka Daag
Even the little droplets of hope that one had left after watching the decidedly bizarre promos of Laaga Chunari Main Daag are mercilessly dashed to the ground. The Yashraj stamp (or rather, stain) is so ostentatious and evident in Pradeep Sarkar’s second film that no amount of Surf Excel- or even Lux, which is so blatantly advertised in the film, can remove it. Barely twenty minutes into the film, and you know that this is a movie that has hopelessly and irreversibly been Yashrajed.
Laaga Chunari Main Daag begins reminiscent of Sarkar’s first film Parineeta, with some lovely, breathtaking shots of the ghats of Benares, doing well to establish the city. Then of course, we have Rani and Konkona- singing Hum To Aise Hain Bhaiyya and we are hooked enough by the lyrics and the two bubbly sisters, even to overlook the exotic façade that the film carefully sets up, dripping with saccharine.
As long as the film stays in Benares and focuses on the trials and tribulations of the family (Anupam Kher and Jaya Bachchan play the siblings’ parents), the drama still manages to hold, despite all the tiresome cliches, cardboard villains and the soapy sentimentality. But once, Vibha (Rani) leaves for Mumbai, the film also sinks, just like the character who falls into the sleazy world of prostitution.
Sarkar is undoubtedly a master of good visuals, and Sushil Rajpal’s cinematography is gorgeous to look at- perhaps a tad too gorgeous, in fact- and there in begins the huge wave of problems that eventually overcome the film. This is a film that simply can’t afford to not look glossy, so much so that the phone booth that Rani uses in the film looks like it has been uprooted from London and miraculously been transplanted here in aamchi Mumbai.
Make no mistake- Vibha doesn’t turn into one of those ‘cheap prostitutes’- the kind we saw in Chandni Bar or Chameli. She instead, astonishingly transforms herself into Natasha- the ‘high priced and exclusive’ escort- who serves as arm candy to high profile businessmen and cavorts on hotel corridors wearing dresses and a wig that could well be right out of Bunty and Babli. Squirm.
As if that wasn’t enough, we are then soon packed off to Switzerland and Italy, where the two sisters sing vapid romantic numbers with their respective stubble- sporting lovers- Abhishek Bachchan and Kunal Kapoor. I repeat, you are still watching a Yashraj film, the director shouts into the microphone, right till the very end, when all ends well, with a lavish wedding song for good measure.
This movie could have been an explosive bundle of talent, especially when it had Jaya Bachchan, Konkana Sen Sharma and Rani Mukherji sharing screen space. But none of these powerhouse performers can do much to help the loopy film. Jaya Bachchan is saddled with a pathetic and badly written role, and she is definitely one of the bigger disappointments in this film. Rani is efficient, but we surely expect more than merely decent acting from her, especially when she is supposed to have an author backed role- but to be fair to her, she tries.
Konkona, both undoubtedly and amazingly is the best thing in this film. Given what is probably her most unchallenging and uninteresting role yet, she still manages to infuse life into her character, giving the film a freshness that it rarely has. She’s dressed in Manish Malhotra’s clothes, she’s singing, she’s dancing and she’s clearly having a blast. Atta Girl!
Laaga Chunari Mein Daag isn’t really bad, and there are some nice moments that do touch you at times- but the film as a whole is too distant from reality, and far too artificial and hollow to move you.
Alas- Laaga Yashraj Ka Daag. And saying “Hum (Yashraj films) To Aise Hain Bhaiyya!” is definitely no excuse or explanation, Mr Chopra.
(PS-This one’s just for you, Kartik bro…remember the wicked little discussion we had on this film!!)
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is baar bangladesh world cup jeetega..
:)):))
The Chopra’s have this keen sense of market to identify successful people and bring them into their fold. Except Shahrukh, they never made any other star. They are desperately trying with Saif, but it’s not gonna happen. But who gave Saif a second lease of life anyway? Not Yashraj but Farhan Akhtar.
Pradeep Sarkar made a good Parineeta. They immediately grabbed him. Imagine a conversation between Rani and Adi…
Both Rani and Adi are in Adi’s office…
Adi: Ranu, I am thinking of a new project…
Rani: Yes Adi babes…
Adi: See, My stomach is burning from the time SLB got you Black! It should be me who should give you such roles…
Rani: Adi darling…I am happy with whatever roles you give me, Babli ya Hum Tum…You know your movies make more money that SLB’s!!
Adi: No…I want to produce a classic for you….
Rani: Adi darling…You are scared of directing again…There are no other “classic” directors here…They are all kiddo’s who were brainwashed by DDLJ, DTPH’s and K3G’s! They are incapable of money wasting intelligent cinema…
Adi: No…I am already in the process of poaching a director…
Rani: Who…
Adi: Pradeep Sarkar…He made Parineeta the talk of the town…I could not bear it…People should only talk about YRF films! Let me give him an offer he cannot resist…He will definitely show the finger to VVC! And then with his directorial skills and “my” vision, your movie will become a classic….And for the NRI market…let me throw in Abhishek, Jaya, etc etc….
Not my type of movie… not my type of review either…
Gawd!!!! How do I put it?? I love the passion that encompasses this site.. I love the energy.. But its just too much energy concentrated towards achieving nothing..
I see people commentating.. regular coffee-shop, petrol station, supermarket ramble… I see a heavy amount of cynicism.. but I dont see any creativity emerging out of all this.. why arent there enough short stories being circulated here?? Only creativity begets creativity.. Overt cynicism kills it, makes it look less appealing..
How do I put it??? This isn’t working.. Passion ins’t about anger.. its constructive self-analysis directed towards making more creative contributions..
How do I put it.. These words can’t fool me..WE are playing the same old song for all seasons… I want more stations, better frequencies, writings that contribute and not necessarily annhilate..Group dynamics ain’t all about sipping hot-coffee and smearing swear-words at the government.. Its about defining newer structures and making an effort to reform..
How do I put it?? Gawd!! How do I??
**************WARNING********************
Its that time of the season when the biggies arrive with aweful movies and snatch away your hard earned money within a span of 2 hours or less.:d
wILL U GUYS STOP criticising Yashraj banner everytime you comment on their movie
When Chakde works, you people praise director and scriptwriter not the producer,
and when their movies do not work, you guys blame the producer and not the director
I think one should have an unbiased view while reviewing the movie.
Good point raised…but still YRJ is to be blamed:P
Kartik..I support you on this..there is an unnecessary carping going on about YRF and that does smell nice anymore..I saw LCMD yesterday with family and friends..I did not see anyone unhappy with the movie at all..yes, it is not the best movie in the world..the pace isn’t quite there because of some songs,etc. but the movie is otherwise good. The storyline may be familiar but it is made with a nice degree of honesty. The screenplay, people say was a letdown..but I could tell that it is working well with the womenfolk and the older group.
Our POV maybe different to what Rani and Co. face in the movie but it is their story..their way of looking at things..the Suburban vs. urban story..YRF has nothing to do with this.
This carping is getting onto nerves now. Next, they have Aaja Nachle in which we have Madhuri, Ranvir, Konkona, Vinay, etc. all favorites in PFC, what happens when that releases and goes down..Actors are good but YRF bad!!!…C’mon guys…grow up..Movie making is a team game..Chak de has created history not because Jaideep wrote that or Shimit directed it but because YRF stood by it..promoted it so much..today all the girls are starting to do so well..Negi has become a celebrity overnight!!!
Here, we also have Adlabs, another production house who have not done justice to a fine movie like Johnny Gaddar and let it slide down. Whom do we blame here??
YRF has the money to do what he feels like…dont you think somebody else could have produced Chak de?..it is just a matter of treatment that chak de clicked..all thanks to sahni and shimit amin. As far as LCMD goes the script is weaker..dont these guys understand what is a good script and what is not??
for eg..juxtapose chak de script and LCMD script..honestly which script was better??
Script having a person resurging like phoenix from the ashes is better than a time warped story on journey of a woman gone wrong.
YRJ is on a movie producing binge.Some click some dont…he is the one creating the movies…dont you think he is responsible for the fuck ups.Its not as if credit was not given to him for chak de..he took a lot of people by surprise.
Kartik Shah & Indraneel: Let me tell you both a story.
Once upon a long long time, there was this ruthless emperor. He ruled with an iron fist. He tortured people. His only ambition was to make more and more money. People suffered tremendously.
Then one day, a group of young people decided to revolt. They formed a band and started an effort to convince people to come together and overthrow the emperor. It’s not an easy task, and it certainly was dangerous. The citizens, having never tasted freedom did not understand the concept of freedom so they were confused when this young band came up to them with the concept of freedom. Deep inside them, the people did want a change and there was a very very slow change in their thinking.
But ofcourse, any such path is filled with lot of challenges. There were some people, people like Kartik Shah and Indraneel who started arguing that the emperor is best for them and this small fighting band will push them to doom. They had actually weakened the movement with their attitude and they themselves did not know what freedom meant and did not want to upset the apple cart. Such people are afraid of change.
They kept arguing with the people that the emperor provides them with work and food. But they did not mention about the quality of life and self respect the people were getting.
They argued that the emperor fights big wars and keeps their country secure. They themselves did not understand that the emperor forced his citizens to fight.
Such people think what is doled out to them is best. But little did they know that the change will come. One day it will.
Super……..Macchar
Indraneel, Kartik- cool off. I have nothing against Yash raj and am not one for mindlessly criticising their films. In fact I have been applauding yash raj of late for making some brave choices in terms of subjects this year. Long back in fact, I remarked that other than TaraRumDumb, the yash raj lineup this year is enviable. I praise them wholeheartedly for backing Chak De and even Chunari and Aaja Nachley. But with Chunari they simply developed cold feet- see the film and tell me if it wasn’t gloss and glycerine over substance and tears. I refuse and detest carping which follows a herd mentality- when Yashraj or for that matter any production house- T series or whatever comes out and makes a good film I will unflinchingly stand up to applaud. BTW- Aaja Nachley doesn’t look too hot either- does Sahni miss Bulls eye this time- we’ll wait and watch.
Macchar..bhai mere..I completely understand the exemplary quest for change..but then no point in bad mouthing the emperor(YRF - EMPEROR??!!). One has to move on and just make good films and creations..nobody is stopping anyone..never heard of Aditya Chopra stopping anyone..in fact the other Chopra..Vidhu Vinod is much more of a bragger..YRF rules because of them giving the most hits in the past decade as a Production house. Other Prod. houses come nowhere near. I too am looking forward to a UTV or PPC doing well. In fact, I look forward to White Feather’s Dus Kahaniyan the most this year..Why??..because of the large list of stories in that one movie..in itself a brave attempt..I look forward to Jodha Akbar too. Gowarikar did well in both the movies he directed. I am not a pessimist and I do not wish to point fingers to any group..our cinema has a long way to go and all steps are towards that eventual goal..carping and personal indictments won’t take anywhere..BTW who supported Maine Gandhi ko nahin mara?
Machchar: Priceless…!
Anurag Kashyap: is baar bangladesh world cup jeetega..
- Yeh baat kuch hazam nahi hui- Anurag sir, could you please explain what this means?
bangladesh=no smoking??:d:-?
Indraneel, If you know the industry, then you will understand what I am trying to say.
YRF is undoubtedly the emperor of Hindi cinema today. They control all the super stars of the country. Any new film maker without their backing finds it almost impossible to get funds and actors. You go to Saif, he says he is busy with YRF for two years. You even go to Kunal Kapoor, he is now the loyal pet of YRF. And without these stars, the real producers, the Independent producers are finding it tough to make movies and get funds.
You said UTV, PPC etc. Their only bottomline is to make money, not good cinema.
YRF is conditioning people with unlimited supply of star studded gloss every friday that people don’t even notice a good cinema, as they cannot afford the marketing blitzkrieg done by YRF etc. They flood the market with 1000’s of prints of useless crap, that small movies get lost completely in this wave.
You kept talking about Chak De. Chak De is Shahrukh and that’s WHY YRF backed it. Remove Shahrukh and cast someone else…Do you even think that YRF will touch it with a bargepole? And why do you keep harping about Chak De. There are dime and dozen such sports movies that come in Hollywood every week and they exactly copied the formula. What was different in it? Thoda sa religion ka angle dal diya and people started praising it as a great cinema! Stupid! There could be much more depth in the script. The coach could have made the players not just better players, but better human beings…but everything went over the surface. People got euphoric cos Indian team become world champions…Well, we desperately needed to see India as world champions in a movie atleast if not in real life.
Have you seen Glory Road produced by Jerry Bruckheimer? Compare it with Chak De.
We have been subjected to utter crap for years so when we see even a 1% okay product, we hail it as the god’s(YRF’s) gift to mankind! Stop being satisfied with crap, expect more.
Yaara, after watching trailers of No Smoking I have realised, it’s about SmokerJoe. Anurag, we have never met, how you thought of the story? :d
PS: Sorry for an out of topic post. But I think Bangladesh should win world cup, they seem to be putting up more effort than India at least.
http://www.bombaybitch.com/site/fullstory/ek_chunari_anaik_daag/
HILARIOUS! DA BITCH ROCKS!
Macchar..agree totally that we gotta make far better films..but unfortunately in most businesses (incl. movies) we have biggies who are interested only in the moolah that comes in..not the quality..the bane of India..be it Cricket, other sports, real astate, manufacturing, paintings, hotels, telecom, software, etc…all over the place. Nobody is remotely interested in quality. So, our best Hockey player is playing in the German league, our best Tennis player is based in Florida, our best Steel maker is based in UK, our best writers are in New York (amit chaudhuri) and Toranto(Rohington Mistry)..even Oz runs this sexy website from Orange County..RAHUL bajaj is pleading with the IITians to stay back in India..we get crap as movies..on the other hand good movies are marketed horribly..who owns Adlabs..Manmohan Shetty or Anil Ambani..a mystery..so how can they support good movies..
Many guys here ask for better content..that is a long way away..so, what do we movie lovers do..not support the guys trying something???..I spent Rs. 1400 yesterday on LCMD..I might shout at YRF..but give them the due, theirs is a better effort than Chodo na yaar..or Go..or Darling..or even some of the Hollywood nonsense these last few weeks!!!
you know there is a clause in yashraj contract with the actors that are not doing too well that says adi will decide what films they can do and can not..
when yashraj releases a film they force terms with exhibitors and they did not for chak de shows they did not believe in it..
to make chak de look palatable they made the music video..that music video was yashraj not chak de..
the cast of aaja nachle is anil mehta and jaideeps choice..
but now, yes yashraj is changing their attitude and they are not looking down upon new cinema, they are just confused as how to go about it as they have not yet discovered the formula..
jaideep is my flag bearer and now he is being given his proper place and platform..
i feel the yashraj of the old will be back..
Kartik and indraneel- the criticism about yyashraj is the most not just here but everywhere because they were loved and trusted the most.. some are vocal about their criticism and others like our regular audience is silent.. they choose to say it by not going for the movie in the first place which they did with laga chunri.. they won’t be bullshitted anymore.. laga was an old decision.. but nachle and tashan are films that one can really look forward to..
even they are changing and criticism about them is good because they are how the west sees us.. they change, everything else changes..
Indraneel, Kartik- I am the one who is paying the money to watch a Yash Raj movie in a theater or on DVD, and if i feel it sucks, i have every right to slam it.
I wanna ask 1 simple Question to u, tomorrow ur bank messes up something related to ur credit card payments, as they quite often do. Are u gonna slam them or say “Hey so what, after all its a bank, there are so many people working here, they are better than other banks, i mean come on they are the world’s leading bank”. Most of the time im sure its gonna be the former.
If our Deccan Airlines flight gets cancelled for the umpteenth time, we are not gonna say “Hey so what, Deccan Airlines is great, they introduced low cost airlines”. Dude that is what being a consumer is, if i feel that a product sucks, i have every right to say so, because i pay for it at the end of the day.
At PFC most of us are consumers in a way, we have expectations from a movie, because we are the ones who pay for it, and if it is not up to our expectations, we have every right to slam it. You dont go and tell the courier guy who messed up your delivery “hey dude, dont worry i understand, u work for long hours, with less pay, i emphathize with u, mistakes happen”. Nor are u gonna tell the restaurant owner, when u find out that there is a fly in your soup, “hey u see there is a fly in my soup, dont mind it, but actually i love the decor of ur hotel, its cool”.
This is a free world dude, and none is above board, be it Yash Raj or Prayag Raj. And i think PFC to date has been fair enough to give views of all kinds a representation.
Here’s a confession… When Anurag said:
“i feel the yashraj of the old will be back..” and “but nachle and tashan are films that one can really look forward to..”
I really felt hopeful… because up until last year… up until Fanaa and Dhoom 2, I looked forward to watching a YRF product… not because of the stars, the music, the “look” or any of that because other film-makers also offer all that… no, it was because of their undeniably awesome track record of delivering films that entertain.
There may be people out there who didn’t like Bunty Aur Babli, Hum Tum, Salaam Namaste or Veer Zaara… I did… and I wasn’t alone… these films were hits because millions of people enjoyed watching them… they promised entertainment and lived up to expectations for these people…
This year hasn’t been so good for YRF… OR ITS FANS… and THAT is what needs to be understood… I went to watch Tara Rum Pum because I liked Siddharth Anand’s first film… just like I watched Johnny Gaddar because I liked Sriram Raghavans first film… and you know something? I hated Tara Rum Pum… and I wrote a bloody pissed off post (a drunken rant to be honest) because the film disapointed me… I expected more…
I still expect more. I expect more than a JBJ from the guy who made Saathiya… I expect more from the guy who made Parineeta… tommorow if Raju Hirani makes a shitty film I’ll be more disapointed, as will YOU, because we all love the Munnabhai films and inturn we all have high expectations from Hirani…
But I won’t let my faith die so easily. When YRF, or any filmmaker in India makes a product worth watching I’ll be sitting in the theatre watching it…
Jahan-bhai… with all due respect how can you say in cmnt 15 “I have nothing against Yash raj and am not one for mindlessly criticising their films.” and yet you title your post “Laga YASHRAJ Ka Daag”??
You say in the post that Laga isn’t such a bad film… most your negative points are aimed at how YashRaj somehow manipulated the content or creative execution of the film… isn’t that indicative of you having something against YRF?
Don’t get me wrong.. I can see how you, or anyone else for that matter, would find melodrama, lack of innovativeness in the screenplay and overall emotional manipulation to be offensive.
What I’m saying though is hold that against the film, against the writers and the directors, not against the production house.
If you want to blame anyone for the film being a disapointment, blame Pradeep Sarkar… HE is the director (just like Shimit Amin was the director of Chak De India and he gets the praise at the end of the day). If Pradeep Sarkar felt certain scenes were becoming melodramatic or that the pacing risked losing the audiences grip then HE should’ve reconstructed the film HIS way, and if he wasn’t given the creative freedom to do so then he should’ve disassociated himself from the film.
Because you see, if he didn’t do it, then who are WE to pass the buck onto his producers?
Whether I’ll end up liking or hating No Smoking, I’m holding Anurag Kashyap responsible and not Vishal Bharadwaj.
When Iqbal does well who gets the credit? Nagesh Kukunoor or Subhash Ghai? What about for Good Boy Bad Boy?
Seriously guys, enough singling out of YRF films here… unless you were ON THE SET of the film and can testify that Adi Chopra actually snatched the microphone away from Pradeep Sarkar, or that he walked into the edit suite and ordered the film to be recut his way, I say its safe to assume that Pradeep Sarkar was indeed the director and thus the man responsible for the end result.
Even the audience could smell the coffee
@6 Macchar that’s so fucking mean:(
Rocking Macchar agree completely second “What was different in it? Thoda sa religion ka angle dal diya and people started praising it as a great cinema! Stupid! There could be much more depth in the script. The coach could have made the players not just better players, but better human beings
“but now, yes yashraj is changing their attitude and they are not looking down upon new cinema, they are just confused as how to go about it as they have not yet discovered the formula..”
I am fully agree with Anurag. Usually I am allergic to YRF products (have not yet seen Hum Tum, TRRP, VZ) but after Chak De their future line up looks good with Tashan etc. However, I am really sad as Johnny Gaddaar did not got the due. It was a sure-shot hot product and do not understand exactly where it failed.
Some one please explain has it really lost money? What is its BO status?
Feeling so bad for the BITCH. BITCH ke saath bahut bura hua. this is not done. BITCH KI BEIZZATI AUR NAHI!!!! and the pr person in question is someone called monica,i think.
http://www.bombaybitch.com/site/fullstory/ek_chunari_anaik_daag/
but the bitch is rocking as always!!!
Well, with whatever I could hear from other people who saw the movie, they said Johnny Gaddar was boring and they actually thought the story was not going anywhere. I doubt if it made any good profits.
@ Macchar..have you seen the movie?..watch it ..i guess you should like it.
p.s. are you judging the film by its BO performance.?.its picking up steadily. The movie is not at all slow..thats absurd.
Johnny Gaddar: classic case of good word of mouth publicity.
Anurag..I can testify that no Indian corporate ever makes a nice contract..YRF too doesn’t and that does not surprise. See, I can understand when you have an issue with them coz you work in the industry and you come across situations that cannot be brushed off as bad karma.
As cinefans, I remember that my best movies in Hindi Cinema (yeah..I too hate calling it Bollywood)came from those guys. If they are faltering, constructive criticism shall have to be provided by all to make things right or Sanjiv kohli should be pulled or something!!
But, bad cinema is not only through them..did you happen to see Dhol..PPC produced..I saw that..coz my wifey had brought home the late show tickets and nobody was wanting to go. I spent a sleepless night shuddering at the thought of messed up raw stock, good actors made to look awful on screen and joke of a story..mindless..thoughtless piece of nonsense..at least Laga told us something!
In any case, I am optimistic about Indian Cinema..the number of new and different concepts on the floor now was never there before..only the marketing is godawful till now..somebody should do something about that!!
I too am hopeful about Aaja Nachle and Tashan and their animation movie “romeo”…hear Saif is doing that!!
WTF was that chavanni? Your hindi spellings sucked bigtime there. Had to read the first para twice to get its meaning. And I gave up thereafter.
you know indraneel whatever others do, people won’t react much.. we criticise our indian cricket team because we expect from them..
and you answered it yourself “i remember that my best movies in hindi cinema came from those guys” exactly.. we all remember.. they came from yashraj.. they are not coming now.. 1/4 this year is not a good score..
btw the only hindi poster in my house other than my own film is Kala Paththar
Anurag..munh ki baat cheenli aapne..kal maine paanch DVD khareede..
Namkeen
Naukar
Kaala Patthar
Daag
Ijaazat
Black Friday is already there. But, Kaala Patthar, Daag and Ittefaq are those jewels from Yash C that I cannot forget..
BTW, Can you think on a prequel to Kaala Patthar with the Amitabh Character and why he became like that and came there…not that fleeting ship thing that was shown?? Oh what a thought!!
Best thing about Kaala Paththar was teesre baadshah Shatru bhai. He really gave Amitabh run for his money. And offcourse “ek raasta hai zindagi”
hey frnds
I liked Lagaa……..& I think its a good movie. not too good but of course good one. Every movie must not be a chak de or rang de basanti. The storyline of Lagaa…….. is cliche……the story has been told many times before but there are other things to watch. rani, konkona, kunal and jayaji have done a very good job and above all i like the typical yash raj look of the movie.
I am waiting for aaja nachle & ROADSIDE ROMEO(written & directed by jugal hansraj, watch the catchy promo before Lagaa………)
YRF zindabad!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lagaa would make money, even if it did not have a good start, it will spread by word of mouth between its target audience. Yash Raj is here to make money and their directors dont make films for themselves but every movie has a target audience.
I have noticed that lot of people associated with industry for their livelihood in this forum are not clear whether the movie they are making is for themselves for festivals or for masses and end up making a flop. People(including me) here hate Lagaa, tara rum pum but fact is it worked big time with their target audience.Much to my dismay my son still watches tara rum pum scenes ( where RV wins) everyday with his friends ( he made me buy its dvd) and still cheers RV everyday. He has brought a red color big car and changes tires and does everythign that car racing world is shown doing in tara rum pum.
The yash raj approach deeply understand this psyche in their target audience and makes money out of it. My son explains what many of us fail to understand and btw if you purely look at finance, tara rum pum was a big hit. Lagaa will have same fate. Indian women will never let it flop.:)
Your priority should be clear, whether you want to make a hit film or a film you like. That also explains why Johny, Black friday etc did not make lot of money.
watched the film and i thought instead of lux, the movie should have endorsed, surf excel and should have ended with “daag acche hain” :d
http://gauravt168.blogspot.com/2007/10/laga-chunari-me-daag-surf-excel-hai-naa.html
=)) two catchy titles in this review…Laaga Yashraj Ka Daag and Hum ( Yashraj films ) tho Aise Hai Bhaiyya..:))…I hated Rani after Kabhi Alvida movie..she keeps crying everytime and people say she deserves award…for what ?? Crying ?? Konkana is very talented though who doesnt need to cry to win awards and hearts …Didnt intend to watch this movie anyways..and certainly not after reading this review [-x
Tony: I understand what you are trying to say. Firstly I would like to say that I am greatly amused at the amount of discussion this post has generated- I don’t think it warrants it really…see what a Yashraj name even in the title can do :-?>:):d*-:)- I have never received so many comments on any post yet- not that it was deliberate…hehe. Actually this review is not really directed against Yashraj, rather there is such an ‘anti-yrf and kjo’ movement on here that ppl get all kicked up when they see the yashraj name being criticised. i was merely amused at the yashrajisms in this movie- for me it was like what chandni bar would be as made by YRF- that idea amused me. Of course I do blame the director mostly, but it is at the same time undeniable that Adi Chops took many major creative decisions in this film. I agree with Anurag- the new direction YRF seems to be taking is bright…though I didn’t like the trailer of Aaja Nachle one bit- will Jaideep sahni hit bullseye again time will tell, but trailer is poor with pathetic songs- that to in a film based on song and dance- unforgivable.
SmokerJoe: Actually what Kartik and I had thought is that Laaga would have a Whisper ultra placement and at the end they would conclude that if whisper would have been used, Daag nahi lagta…lol
there is something not quite right.
i saw laga chunri mein daag- and i could not take it beyond the half way mark- i left! It is an awful movie- regressive, badly made, situated in a dream world, and nothing - nothing touched me in the first 80minutes of the film. it was just bad!
now, i see, there is a backlash to the backlash!
there are people who are trying to defend YRF and their kind of films because with so many people reacting badly to their films (at least at this site) YRF are suddenly the underdogs! Pleeeease!
Let me try and articulate what i am feeling right now.
YRF is almost a kind of a symbol- a symptom- of whatever is wrong with Bollywood. They epitomise the formula- and worse, they have in the last four years, perfected a promotion and release packaging that is almost fool-proof. They are sitting there, calculating- yes calculating what would work- which i think is the worst way of making a film. The so called new bold or progressive (though they are far from that) is just a reaction to what else is working in the market place (a reaction to the success of other smaller films and trying to appropriate that within the larger scheme of things, making that into a formula).
It is all about number crunching- and only that.
Nothing wrong with that, in the golden years of Hollywood studio system, this is how they worked and still made some great films. Two BIG differences. One- some of the studio chiefs then were great producers who had a passion for cinema that went beyond the number crunching and two- they had some great directors working for the studio, who managed to tell very personal tales and experiences while working within the studio environment.
Till YRF or anyone else for that matter wants to make a film because it comes out of a conviction and a belief, they will not make a good film- at best, a well written packaged film.
And why target YRF when everybody else around is making the same crappy film- simply because they are the biggest, most successful and the most powerful….
There is no fight with anybody- each one should be free to make the kind of cinema they believe in, it is just that there has been only one kind of cinema in this country for too bloody long. now things are changing- and soon, i think in another five years, there would be all kinds of films made and released, and people would stop talking about YRF.
That is the day worth waiting for - when we would stop talking about YRF (like we have stopped talking about subhash ghai now - ah, couldnt resist adding that last note!)
Rajat
dude forget all that about formula and all
there is a simple reason why this film was made
Rani in the lead and pradeep sarkar directing?
Aditya chopra narrated him the story?
do i need to explain further?
everhting else is besides the point
:d/
The damage YRF and Aditya Chopra can inflict is much more than what Subhash Ghai can do. Subhash Ghai was never an out-of-control, greedy and had world dominance ambitions, unlike Yashraj, who behave like Ernst Stavro Blofeld in James Bond Movies…out to control everything!
They might not have realized it, they are doing more damage to the industry than good. Real producers are getting wiped away. Corporates are not getting superstars so they are signing even a B-Grade star for multi-million dollar deals. So where does this leave a producer who has been making movies for 20 years but never made much money as he has been putting all he got into the Industry itself…
Or you need to be a big super stars secretary to make some decent movies like Kumar Mangat, Pankaj Kharbanda etc.
Left to Kumar Mangat alone, he definitely would not have produced No Smoking. It took the guts of Vishal Bharadwaj and the trust he shares with Ajay Devgan, plus the hype Anurag Kashyap was enjoying pre-post Black Friday. But what about other film makers who don’t have the “hype”? What about other film makers who have great scripts, great talent to execute but no “old boy” network? What will happen to those film makers who cannot dazzle people like some US returned pedigree and accented people do?
Unless Yashraj understands that a healthy industry is where everyone makes money and not just one select group, it is a bleak future.
In a typical Yashraj or a corporate company, the person they take more serious is a bol bachchan. I don’t intend to insult anyone, but they tend to take Bhavani Iyer kinds who project intelligence whether they have it or not. (I am sure she really is intelligent, I said types who also talk like her..)
Take the case of a brilliant young guy, talented but does not have the skills to sell himself. He comes from a middle class family so he lacks the confidence to talk to people unlike those convent school types do. The frontline assoles at YRF and UTV’s tend to take the bol bachchans more seriously than these talented young men.
Well…Anyway, it’s the survival of the fittest, but I just want a fair battle ground.
Jahan…that’s good one..lol..
your way is proactive (daag lagne hi na do) and mine is reactive (daag lag jaye to dho dalo).
Last otion, buy a new chunari, festive season me har jagah sale lagi hui hai. :d
@Machchar,#48 Comment very very true…
Today Machchar in form :):)
Haha! Machchar is always in form unless there is a “Good Knight” or “Tortoise” around! I just hope everyone who wants to make movies can make movies. Only people who can talk hi-fi are getting chances. And most of these new age directors are established ad film makers who have their solid network.
I am talking about that Assistant Director in Oshiwara who has real talent, great story telling capabilities but no access.
Macchar, you are in real form today, and who is the ad in oshiwara!!! are you talking about yourself?
Suchita, I am no more an AD and I am not in Oshiwara :)
ha ha don’t take it personally, i know that, infact you will soon have a face on face book….
my khabrees are on look out for you:d
Hey, I was one at one point of time so I definitely identify with them…nothing personal in it. In fact I feel proud to be one among them.
Thanks for getting me on facebook! I am still learning how to use it, expect a message on your wall from me :D
even am farely new, never go there in fact, post a good msg on my wall… in fact praise me although you know nothing about me but create something
Haha! Don’t worry I will use my screenplay skills to write something dhamaal!
:(:-?
@Jahan#45,you can’t ‘whisper’ a product placement with eternal brahmachari Hanumaan ji’s protective shield and at the same time hanumaan chalisa playing cupid!i had a title that i mentioned in another post on LCMD..”Daag Acchhe hain, Agar Bajrang Bali Peechhe hain”..At times it seems YRF has blessings from above to lord over the industry..
@Machchar#48..your observations hit the bulls eye..
- Rajat, that’s bulls eye! Now when are you picking up your authorship package? :)
What about the chicks in yrf films…why isn’t anyone talking about that? The simple fact is that they know how to package their women…and nothing sells like the latent promise of sex with beautiful women….
Like Godard said - ‘give me a girl and a gun and I’ll give you a movie’.
Sex or the promise of it, makes the world go round ..and definitely the movie world, more so than others…
And let’s face it guys, if everyone got laid more often, the world wouldn’t have half the problems that it does…
girlsgirlsgirls, ramu gets laid very often(I presume), but I don’t see any of his problems reducing ;)
Hi Jwalant! I like one more dialogue from Kala Patthar. That is of Amitabh Bachchan’s “My pain is my destiny & I can’t avoid it” & the other one which you mentioned above “Teesre Badshah Hum Hai” by Shatrughan Sinha & I love the movie also.
P.S. Sorry im a little late comer.
Mosquito…what you think are his problems would be blessings for most people…!And to be honest, I dont really think he gets laid so much…doesn’t seem the type to me…but Subhash Ghai, now There’s a bedtime story!
@64, girlsgirlsgirls looks like a really frustrated person.. ;) Macchar kyon sabkee… marne nein laga hua hai, script finish hui kee nahin
I meant to say I like both the dialogues.:)
looks like you think the world revolved around….there are more important thinks which make the world go round… like passion.. just like our PFC:((
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I had a friend. He used to always talk about sex and getting laid. For him, getting laid was the most important thing in the world. But when I found out that he was impotent and could not get it “up”, I then understood the true problem. A psychiatrist also told me such people usually rant more than they could do ;) Poor chap…I am sure his neighbor is a lucky man if he is married, or will be if a poor girl does get married to him!
WTF is happening??:o:o
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Cut the crap people.Admin please take care of it.[-x
(Admin note : GGG…stop it. Enough.)
why don’t you meet me and I will give you a real introduction of who I am
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Just a correction..Loser*:d:P
thanx Sourav am using it in the other context…
no sweat…but atleast we can discuss movies now…peace out.
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My bad Macchar..Suchita you win!!:d let peace and cinema prevail.
my take on the general template for these flame wars.
- Person A - Insult
- Person B - Retort
- Person A - Counter-Retort
- Person B - Questioning of sexual preference
- Person A - Suggestion to STFU
- Person B - Notation that A creates a vaccuum.
- Person A - Riposte
- Person A - Addon riposte
- Person B - Counter riposte
- Person A - Counter Counter riposte
- Person B - Nonsensical statement involving the digestive system or its subsystems.
- Admin/Moderator - Response to previous statement and threat to ban opposing sides
- Person B - Digestively correct words of praise for LOCAL GOD
- Admin/Moderator - Acknowledgement and acceptance of terms.
Guys (ggg, machchar n suchita)…this is even more formulaic than YRF produce…please give us a break now.
wat started as yashraj daag…became PFC ka daag..
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Machchar (51): so touching how you simply can’t forget me and feel the need to keep referring to me even when I’m absent…love you too! :*
night saab aap kab se knight ban gaye aur kaunsa rani bana diya? :D And you are true about me not able to forget me…I miss you night!
Have no intention of making you a ‘rani’, when, (by the looks of things in this rather interesting comments section), you are already a ‘raja’ to one S ‘elle’ B… ;)
night saab, I am content being a Machchar, don’t know if I am Machcharo ka raja but definitely not to any “elle’s” you mentioned. Let’s not behave like school kids and make any girls uncomfortable around here.
So says Machchar - rescuer of dams’elle’s in distress and the most mature member of PFC… :-@
WTF is happening here..guys..take a break from PFC…go to some chat corner..have some aloo pudina chat…come back..may be you will then discuss what these forums are created for..Phew!!
We have another chachaji among us now!
not as bad as a Narad Jee among us :w;
=))