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Marigold under constipation

Oh my God
I never knew a drink would feel so good at this godforsaken time of around 2 in the night.
Just came back from Marigold……..
Our Marie biscuits are so much better, should have just hung around at home and had it with tea with my folks who have come a visiting me from Kerala.
But no, jab burra waqt aata hai tho siyaal, shahar ki taraf daudta hai, aur main dauda Fun Republic ki aur.
Please, these Angrezi talking apne ghar ke actors are really ridiculous.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ….. these are my memories of the film.
Lovely plot…hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Fantastic performances especially Gulshan Grovers…. hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
And then they all say that they are a part of a Hollywood production…. hahahahahahah
Wake up everybody, learn the power of NOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!
lol
But i really thought Vikas Bhalla, Suchitra Pillai, Nandana Sen, Simone Singh, Rakesh Bedi, Vrajesh Hirjee were good. No,seriously.
Abhi aur logon ke baare mein boloonga tho mera yeh forced unemployment real unemployment mein badal jaayega.
Serious crap it is, so I would like to welcome everybody with serious constipation to go and visit the nearest cinema halls to check this strange flower out called Marigold. It really helps.

34 Responses to “Marigold under constipation”

  1. oz on August 16th, 2007 2:48 pm

    Oh teri… writing after drinking. Drink after constipation. Constipation after Marigold… =))

    seriously… is it that bad?

    1 ??? one one one one one???

  2. Gattu on August 16th, 2007 3:00 pm

    You Malayalee? Me too :) Lalit bhai please visit your home State sometime. I’ll never go near the theater playing Sallu bhai’s because I love Sallu bhai soooooooo much. HR & S K Jha bhai you’ve competition.=))

  3. OM on August 16th, 2007 3:23 pm

    Funny..its just yesterday i was watching the sa re ga ma pa contest were sallu bhai was the guest…and he too…didnt look impressed…lol…

    ……………………………………………………………………..

    ek…..

  4. kartik krishnan on August 16th, 2007 10:40 pm

    ohhhh !!!!
    the trailers never looked impressive from DAY ONE !!!

    Convinenet cliched plot …. hollywood production…

    I have a Q for u Prroshant …
    Just Who or what are such people trying to sell ??? Are they trying to sell the West to us or are they trying to sell the East to the West ???

    Who or what exactly is the market for these ‘crossover films’ ????

  5. Ratnakar on August 17th, 2007 1:08 am

    Ali Larter is no better than a B Movie Actress in Hollywood, and along with likes of Mila Jovovich, she is rated as one of the dumbest heroines. But i guess our guys r so fixated with Gori chamdi, that they will get any 3rd rated female, from US, Canada, Australia or Europe.

    And Salman needs to be given a Lifetime Achievement Award for having the same name( Prem), the same expression, and the same dumb look in movie after movie.

    Kiran Juneja, Viyajandre Ghatge, Rakesh Bedi, Vikas Bhalla- All masters of prime time hamming.
    So it was a wonder that people actually had hopes on this movie. But seriously i am sick with these gori babes, trying to babble in Hindi.

  6. sm on August 17th, 2007 1:18 am

    Where did Ali Larter speak in Hindi in Marigold? I don’t understand Ratnakar’s comment.

    But I have a general question for everyone. What do you expect from a “Hollywood” film? I think that term is thrown around with a lot of reverence and awe, but I don’t really know what it means.

    Marigold is a conventional romantic comedy, and is enjoyable as such. It doesn’t break any new ground in Bollywood. Its novelty value will be for those unfamiliar with Bollywood films. It will be interesting to see how it does in the U.S.

    But I also did wonder who the target audience was.

  7. Pratim D. Gupta on August 17th, 2007 5:22 am

    It’s so bad, so bad, so bad… yes, marie biscuits taste better and I can’t even stand the smell of them…

  8. krysh on August 17th, 2007 5:43 am

    Prroshant,another laxative alternative is Buddha Marr Gaya..These pharmaceutical companies have a serious competition from Bollywood—what a diversification? No,no,no–one dose is enough for today.Maybe next week i may muster enough courage to relieve my constipation and take a ‘golden marie’..And request Rahul Rawail to do the same.He seems to have lost his marbles and suffering from severe creative constipation.
    And yes Dr.Manmohan Singh has not got around to implement full unemployment dole..so beware of real unemployment.

  9. zazu on August 17th, 2007 6:13 am

    It’s a romantic comedy, i.e. appealing mostly to women who aren’t cinema obsessed. Read the Variety review to get an alternative view. It’s actually intelligible.

    http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117934433.html?categoryid=31&cs=1

  10. ShawshankRedemption on August 17th, 2007 7:07 am

    Taran Adarsh of IndianFM usually very diplomatic when reviewing A-list actor’s movies has also not rated this movie very well.

    http://www.indiafm.com/movies/review/12587/index.html

  11. Charles Foster Kane aka Antonio Ricci on August 17th, 2007 8:04 am

    This is a very rare kind of review from Taran, where he gives 1 to a Khan film! His reviews should not be talked about. We had a good discussion over it on the CDI review.

    Last week, he rated CDI 2. Now he rates Rakhi Sawant-starrer Buddha Mar Gaya 3. Need we say more?

  12. Ratnakar on August 17th, 2007 8:24 am

    Kane, to call Taran Adarsh, a reviewer is to call Rakhi Sawant an actress, and Paris Hilton, a latter day Ingrid Bergman.

    We seriously need reviewers of the caliber of James Berardinelli and Roger Egbert here. Khalid Mohd has his personal favorites, Raja Sen is too pompous and as for Deepa Gahlot, Anupama Chopra, Namrata Joshi, they should be permanently banned from watching movies.

    The only decent reviewers i had found were Bhaskar Ghoshe, and Rajeev Masand( though i never liked the way he gave a 4 star rating to KANK, but then James Berardinelli gave a 5 star rating to Titanic, so i guess galti sabse hota hai).

  13. Ratnakar on August 17th, 2007 8:27 am

    @Kane
    And the less said about Mr intellectual Subash K Jha, the better. Does that guy have any modicum of self respect, honor, integrity? Its disgusting the way, he behaves like the pet poodle of the Bachans, Yash Raj camp, SLB, and the way he keeps taking potshots at Anurag Kashyap.Not a single word, by him on Black Friday so far. I havent seen a more pathetic loser in my life.

  14. suchita b on August 17th, 2007 8:32 am

    Ratnakar, you seem to be having some thing against women.. why all three woman critics only should be banned, are they worse than so many known other male critics in the area[ won't take names] although rajeev masand is my personal fav, his reviews are to the point and unbiased

  15. ShawshankRedemption on August 17th, 2007 8:44 am

    Taran Adarsh’s reviews should be talken with a grain of salt. The guy reviews the movie from the POV of buisness or how well it will fares at the Box office. Most of you here review the film from the artistic POV.

    I feel these are different perspective.

    And I have seen Taran to be bang on target with his reviews on how well the film does. Not to say he is great reviewer but I would say he is a great box office pundit.

  16. ShawshankRedemption on August 17th, 2007 8:46 am

    Lata Kubhchandani’s review of KANK was the best i have read so far.

  17. Charles Foster Kane aka Antonio Ricci on August 17th, 2007 9:01 am

    I guess, his box office predictions are correct most of the times. So what’s the need to review a movie? He can jsut say, it will be a hit or flop. Why rate them to show he is a great critic?

    Thnaks, Ratnakar! But I don’t feel Anupama is so bad a critic! She is quite good “at times”. Once she gave a list of top 5 debutante directors. No.1 featured My Brother..Nikhil. There were Kabul Express and KhoslaKG too! That was definitely an off-beat list! At least she didn’t feature Vicky Chopra for Fight Club! That was enough!

  18. Charles Foster Kane aka Antonio Ricci on August 17th, 2007 9:13 am

    And speaking of a critic you mentioned [won't take names], he is very inconsistent. I like his reviews, though. He has a trademark style. I didn’t hate KANK as much as other people did. I echo Onir’s opinion that I could have a much better one. It was just an average one. But 4 was too much! He rated Mani’s worst and weakest (GURU) 4. He criticised JhoomBJ very much, but gave it 2.It actually deserved 1 or 0. He praised Omkara highly, but gave it only 3. Then again, he rated Khosla/ BF 4. They were really fantastic reviews.

    On the whole, there’s no such critic whom you can rely upon. And we won’t go to “the pet” you mentioned.

  19. Charles Foster Kane aka Antonio Ricci on August 17th, 2007 10:35 am

    Thankfully, he rated Marigold 0/5. I expected that and hoped he would.

  20. Charles Foster Kane aka Antonio Ricci on August 17th, 2007 10:36 am

    His last reviews of CDI and Blue Umbrella were also very good!

  21. Tony Mera Naam on August 18th, 2007 12:10 pm

    THIS is why I HATE these kinds of so-called crossover movies. It is NOT cinema… its mostly CRAP!

    As soon as I read what Marigold was about I was turned off. Sadly the Govinda-Gori track in Salaam-E-Ishq had a more intriguing story.

    Kartik bhai, the attempt to sell the “Bollywood Brand” to the west. Well, if people in India hate this shit, why would the west like it?

    If you want to make a film in English that’s fine as long as there’s justification. And a good story. I liked “Bend it Like Bekham” and “American Desi” because they weren’t about salesmanship, they weren’t selling an f’n brand, they were telling good stories. Unfortunately not every filmmaker gets that. They see the opportunity but not what it takes to achieve it.

    BTW funny post Prroshant bhai…

  22. Tony Mera Naam on August 18th, 2007 12:15 pm

    Shawshank, not only did Taran Adarsh trash the film, he totally trashed Salman’s performance. I’ve never seen him bitch about any performance like this. It reminded me of how my Dad would give one of his “what the hell are you thinking” lectures whenever I did something stupid… “Tu stupid hogaya? Nahin, je tu stupid hogaya te das de, ussi kuch kariye tere lai…” lol…

  23. Tony Mera Naam on August 18th, 2007 12:16 pm

    sorry.. translation for the above… “Are you stupid now? No cuz if your stupid now tell us so we can do something for you…”

  24. Rekha on August 19th, 2007 11:53 am

    I saw marigold and its a really good film. I thnk people are expecting too much and should just look at it like a sweet romantic film.

  25. 24or25fps on August 19th, 2007 2:14 pm

    kartik y dont u ask tis east west question to anurag it wud b nice…(no pun intended)

  26. ShawshankRedemption on August 20th, 2007 9:31 am

    Tony Mera Naam… I agree.. He trashed Salman.

    If Taran says its bad it really is bad.

  27. NoVaDJ on August 22nd, 2007 12:14 am

    I don’t know if I would just dismiss Ali Larter as a “B” actress, she is one of the stars of the NBC TV series “HEROES”, which is a superhit series in the US. It seems that most of the people trashing this movie on here haven’t even seen it yet. I usually form my opinion after seeing a film , not from reading someone’s personal view of it.

  28. sm on August 22nd, 2007 12:23 am

    Well, I have seen it, and enjoyed it. I didn’t think, however, that it would do well in India, because it would be too familiar to the audiences there, in terms of story and narrative technique. However, this isn’t the complaint that is being made in most of the professional reviews. There is this sense of outrage, a vehement defensiveness, that seems to me to be entirely out of proportion to the film’s shortcomings. To begin with, it seems like everyone had a preconceived notion of what a “Hollywood” film should be. It didn’t meet those preconceptions, being a very Indian movie, and so the disappointment takes form in vehement vitriol. It is one thing to not like a film, and say so, but it is entirely different to deride a film for not conforming to one’s overblown expectations of how one should be “presented to the world.” Are Indians really that insecure?

  29. Evelyn Tu on August 22nd, 2007 8:58 pm

    sm, I really like your comment. To take it further, Marigold technically is not a “Hollywood” studio product and should not be judged as one. It’s an American independent movie in which the director took it upon himself to show American audiences what he loves so much about Bollywood and India.

    Having interviewed Willard Carroll for a short article, my sense is that he is fond of the heightened emotions and beauty that he sees in popular Indian films. He specifically named Salman’s character Prem because he liked Salman’s sweeter roles from his Maine Pyar Kiya days.

    It’s easier to promote serious arthouse cinema (such as Water, Monsoon Wedding, even Black Friday) to an American audience because we are used to foreign art movies already. The escapist musical romance, however, is more foreign to us. Americans are not used to seeing scenes where plots take a temporary left-turn into fantasy, unless the movie sets the groundwork for that in the beginning.

    Also from talking with Willard Carroll, he had women in mind when he made this film. All of the Indian reviewers who reviled it are men. To be honest, there were a few clunker lines of dialogue that brought down an otherwise entirely pleasant reverie. For example, the line about the mantel of tradition descending on Indian men after marriage might have been the last straw for some reviewers.

    Perhaps some worry that American viewers may hear the bits about the director who basically has no script and will therefore assume that ALL Indian movies have no script. I suspect most viewers here will be so overstimulated by all the newness that they won’t notice those parts at all. You already have to be sensitized to that topic for it to register.

  30. NoVaDJ on August 23rd, 2007 12:01 am

    Evelyn Tu , you hit the nail on the head. Most people except those that already watch Indian movies don’t seem to understand “where plots take a temporary left-turn into fantasy”. I’m a Gay man and I love the artistry of some of those musical numbers when they are directed with flair. I actually have a lot of my friends turned onto them now. I had been dating a Hispanic guy for a few weeks who seemed very interested in seeing these musical numbers that I had been raving about. After showing him about 6 of my favorite numbers all he could say was ,”I don’t understand why you want to watch women dancing”….and that was our last date. Hindi and South Indian movies have become such a big part of my life that I want to find someone that enjoys them as much as I do. Maybe I need to meet the Director of Marigold:d

  31. sm on August 23rd, 2007 12:28 am

    Evelyn, thanks for you input. Is your article available anywhere on the web to read?

    You made a very astute point about all the reviewers being male, which struck me, too. But, besides being men, they seem to be entirely unaware of there being such a genre as a romantic comedy in American (or “Hollywood”) films, whose prime audience is women, and which has a long and honored tradition, as well as well-established conventions of story and storytelling. Marigold fits very well into that tradition. In addition, the romantic comedy genre in films, as well as romance novels in print (which make up something like 40% or 60% of all books sold in the U.S.) are always looking for a new spin on the venerable tradition, whether it is by changing the setting, the hero, or the nature of the impediment to the romance. There hasn’t been a romantic hero like Prem in American movies. A love for which the obstacle to overcome is a different kind of love, toward one’s parents, is not a theme that is at all explored in such films to date. Now to Indian viewers these are all old themes which have outworn their welcome. However, to an American audience, they will be very fresh.

    Marigold’s greatest problem in India might have been its being tagged as a “Hollywood” film, which, as you rightly point out, it is not. I doubt if they even understand the concept of the independent production in the Bollywood trade, where every English language film, or worse, every film with white (let me say it) characters, automatically gets labeled a “Hollywood” film. If it had just released quietly as a sweet old-fashioned film with Salman Khan, it would have probably appealed very much to his core fan base. But, because of the “Hollywood” tag, it has been released primarily in multiplex theaters, even the Hindi-dubbed version, and the single screen theaters, its natural milieu, have been given the go by. It is emphatically not a multiplex film, since it is too Indian for those audiences, who crave something “new” or “different.” It probably should have taken the same release strategy as “Vivah”, the film that I think comes closest to its sensibility.

    Some films are made successes by their marketing, this film suffered badly because of an inappropriate marketing strategy.

  32. sherkhan on October 2nd, 2007 9:55 am

    :)
    hi, i have been a fan(the “word” i use very often) of ur acting since i saw u in Zee Tv’s serial, i am forgetting the name, but it was kind of unique series, and interesting one, u played a guy who stammer in it and was kidnapped in it (that’s what i remember now, thanks 2 ur performance), after that u came in other serials and movies, u were good in Chal & waisa.. but its sad that directors still hasn’t make use of ur acting skills. but that’s what India is where Actors doen’t matter, place only for Heroes. looking forward to see u on the screen. :)>-:)>-:)>-

  33. sherkhan on October 2nd, 2007 10:05 am

    sorry, fan : the word i use very “SELDOM”

  34. rachna on October 8th, 2007 11:40 am

    prrroshant - dont be pareshaan
    go see Jhonny gaddar and you will be heraan
    at the genius of Sreeram RAGHWAN

    AND YOU WRITE SUCH GOOD SONGS!!
    I LOGGED IN TO SEE IF YOU HAVE A DATABANK OF YOUR SONGS AND self composed music

    open your pittaara man……..

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