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MiD Day Trash Talks on PFC Authors
Sirjee, Sirjee, Sijee…. I need your help I need your help…
Calm down Betelal, pull your tongue in, stop panting, take the Midday paper in your right hand to wipe your ass clean and tell me what’s going on now?
Sirjee… I want to become a journalist
You what?
Yes Sirjee… I want to become a journalist. Because Midday has just advertised they want to employ journalists who are little more than egg heads.
I’m sorry Betelal. In that case you don’t fit the bill.
But Sirjee… Midday does seem to have a potheaded journalist who’s intelligence about Blogging isn’t any more than an egghead… or Pappu…
Who the fuck is Pappu, Betelal?
Sirjee… Pappu is my dog… who has a slightly better understanding of what blogging means than this Midday journalist… I think Pappu secretly blogs on my laptop after I leave for work… I suspect I saw a blog the other day that was titled “Pappu Kutte ki Kahani”…
And who is this potheaded journalist that you speak of and why is he an egghead?
Sirjee I just read this article on Midday that trash talks about PFC Authors - specially the highly talented movie maker Pavan Kaul who blogs on PFC. According to this article
Pawan Kaul is copying director Anurag Kashyap’s ways. Kashyap has created an online diary to capture the everyday joys and frustrations that have gone into the making of his film, No Smoking, starring John Abraham.
Now we hear that Kaul is doing likewise for his film Bhram, starring Dino Morea and Milind Soman. Kashyap is a self-proclaimed blogger and shares his personal accounts of moviemaking with others because it’s therapeutic. We wonder what kind of illness Kaul needs therapy for. Could it possibly have anything to do with that disastrous flick, Shhhh….?
[ SLAP ]
Sirjee, Why did you slap me?
Didn’t I tell you Betelal, to stop reading Porn? This Midday article is nothing but porn made under the “U” certificate… I wonder if they know what Blogging means…
Sirjee, following is oz’s statment when I mentioned Mid Crap Day’s article to him. According to oz…
Pavan Kaul is blogging on PassionForCinema, because of my request to him, to come on a global platform and interact with cinema fanatics the world over on a first person basis. Pavan is very excited about the whole idea and the response he has received. For Pavan, this journey is purely based on his honest desire to share his amazing “Experiences and Experiments” of his film career.
Midday neither approached any author or representative of PFC to get their point and complete the whole circle of the topic they wrote about, instead content on writing trash to fill up the vacuum on their blank pages.
Going by Midday’s words, some of the new authors from the film industries of Hollywood, Japan, India and South America, that we are working on to bring on PFC, too would be copy cats which is really a foolish and utterly stupid thought generated by someone at Midday.
Midday’s journalist should first of log on to Wiki to understand the meaning of blogging and realize that all PFC Authors including Anurag Kashyap, Pavan Kaul and Suparn Verma are there because of their sincere and honest passion for cinema and their complete openess to share the excitement and knowledge about the medium with their fans and cinema fanatics the world over.
Is this Midday’s attempt to discourage talented film makers to interact online with cinema fanatics in first person? Does Midday think it will weaken their business when such a thing happens Sirjee?
Betelal, the journalist at Midday and it’s editor are obviously completely ignorant about the word Blog, the new movement in the cinema industry the world over, where many filmmakers are coming online to interact and participate in a vibrant exchange of ideas between the movie mavericks and themselves.
I don’t think Midday is that technologically intelligent or technologically aware of the latest trends Betelal.
You mean Sirjee, people at Midday slap their computers when Windows breaks down?
It is quite obvious when the criminally ignorant assholes at Mid day call a blogger of the status of Pavan Kaul a “copy cat”. They obviously aren’t aware that there are numerous film makers who have been blogging about their film making journey and their projects, including India’s own Shekhar Kapoor and a few others down south.
Midday should realize Betelal that it’s not Pavan but the journalist who wrote that article who suffers from a mother fucking disease. The disease of empty headed-ness for which there is no cure.
It is so stupid and foolish an idea Betelal, that if one goes by Midday’s words every one in this world is a “copy cat” who is simply imitating the very first blogger of this world.
Sirjee, command me and in Shri Rajiv Gandhi’s and Kapil Dev’s words I will “Nani yaad dila doonga”
Betelal “Nani” may be a little over the top… let’s stick to “Amma”… But Betelal did you contact Midday and ask them to apologize?
Sirjee, I called and so did PFC Authors, a few times after this article was published. We told MidDay that we were from PFC and wanted to talk to the journalist about this trash article he/she has written.
What happened then Betelal?
We haven’t heard back from them and neither has the journalist called back or MidDay issued an apology. Obviously they are all hiding under their desks
Looks like it Betelal… But the blogging community needs to be made aware of how MidDay via this article wants to discourage talented people from the film industry from blogging online.
How can we do that Sirjee?
If there can be atleast 20 to 50 articles or blogs online that point to this trash talk of Midday… then tomorrow any search on MidDay will lead to those posts and articles landing up on the search pages of any search engine online. The stigma of Midday trash talk will be attached to it forever as long as the internet exists.
The journo at Midday failed to realize the fact that if he thinks he’s the baap in the media, we are the rebellious children of the Internet…
Good idea Sirjee.
Betelal that is why I’m Sirjee, you a Betelal, and that Midday journalist an egg head.
Sirjee, I have a problem though… Since I have a yearly subscription of Midday, what should I do with it… I was thinking that it would be a good substitute for toilet paper….
Shut up Betelal
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Lol!That was funny. But funnier than that was mid-day’s article.. Don’t worry oz bhai, it’s an ignorant article which no one is going to pay heed to.
P.S.: You wear clothes and I wear clothes.. Am I a copycat now!BOO HOO
Midday is a joke! They don’t check their facts and abuse our writers. It’s so clear that obviously certain people in the media are peeved at the fact that insider tidbits about production of films that used to be exclusive to them, are now being posted for the public directly by the filmmakers online. Mr. Kaul, please do not let desperate losers like these Midday journalists discourage you from communicating with your audience. You have our support.
Writing articles like these to discourage filmmakers from communicating with their viewers is a lame, desperate move. There is no question of “copying” another filmmaker if one is posting blogs about their work. That’s just a plain stupid comment. If journalists like this idiot have nothing to say, they just need to shut, instead of unnecessarily maligning a productive, informative environment like this where like-minded people share their views and opinions. Well, perhaps understanding that may be too difficult for gossip-mongers like this midday journo.
well put oz =D>
midday publishes trash. oh wait, so do tabloids. midday, you copycats! :o get your heads outta your ass and report fact. don’t make up fiction. leave that to the talented filmmakers that exist on PFC.
This is some absolute “BULL-CRAP”. I feel really bad for Pavan…the guy is certainly very creative and has a great drive for his dreams….he has the passion for cinema as we all do….yes we are also guilty of being Copy-cats. if following your dream and sharing your knowledge, talking about one “solid” motivation/passion in your life is a copy-cat…then i am sorry to say every person on PFC is a copy cat….in that sense every person on this entire mother-earth is a copy cat because every person watches movies….I am a copy-cat because i watch the same movies that billions of others watch… i have the same ideas and share the same platform to discuss it…yes i am a copy-cat….i do not like certain aspects of something which is true with millions of others…yes i am a copy-cat…hell i was not the first person nor will i be the last person who would love, adore, embrace, discuss, critic cinema…yes MID-Day guilty as charged… I am copy-cat.
Mid-Day…. If I was a shit-hole of stupidity like your Journalist is…I would have also credited you with being a copy-cat…as you do the same things as any other newspaper does….ohh no…please don’t think hard…its not your field…I was talking about taking interviews, publishing articles….that is the essence of writing..Aint it….so, what is original about you writing articles and publishing your newspaper…that no other newspaper does? From your thought process the answer you get is Nada, zero, zilch….
PFC is a place…a non-profit platform for cine-fanatics….what brings us? Publicity? NO….what brings us here? Show-off talent?…NO…. How hard would it be for you to understand that PFC is a Platform for movie fanatics to share knowledge….to talk about one mother-fucking 6-letter driving force called “CINEMA”….Ohh my bad….we do not believe in the other 6 letter word that drives you “GOSSIP”.
Mid-day….You do not have creative brains working for you….do not worry….we have plentiful here blogging on PFC….beg from us….short of ideas…doesn’t make me wonder why…..Be man enough to research before you write…or is that a died and buried art in your world? Hold yourself responsible for the stupidiest article you have ever-written and die in shame….ohh yeah…. You know the best book ever written? Dictionary…yes…go read it… and find the word called “BLOG”….comeback to me after you understood it and then we can talk…..
highly disheartening. mid day should be sued. they need to wake up and realise that we are not living in the stone age. almost half the world who use the internet blog now, that would mean all the half the tech-savvy world would be a copycat.
pity on such wasted journalistic space, if they are running out of issues, why dont they write about their relatives and family members instead of publishing half-baked musings, and uncertified/unjustified/unexplained stories about respectable people like Kaul.
if they scratched their grey cells a little, they would know the intentions behind Pavan’s blog, which are distinctly different from Anurag’s. He DOES NOT intend to discuss his film like Anurag does, both have separate reasons behind sharing their experiences. moreover, both are dear to us as PFC, and we will not tolerate any such misgivings in the public space.
lets write to Mid Day, and ask for an apology or an explanation for this blunder.
this was going to happen sooner or later cos PFC is getting popular day by day. i would not be suprised if other paper goes same way. i reckon, PFC will be attacked more, cos it is a BLOG and not…
anyway, if the Mid-day journalist had done a bit of research he would have found that Pavan-ji had his own blog before he started sharing his thoughts on PFC.
Good one OZ :)
What th duece? What’s up with these Mid-day people? Do they even realise how important are these posts from film makers like Pavan to us and other movie lovers. Having a movie section in a news papers is not all about telling who wears what, you kissed whom, who is a cat and who is a rat. How stupid…if they can’t appreciate a movie maker who is coming out to reach people who are eager to learn something..they better stay away.
I hope the devil in the devilish corner he writes, would poke in the that Journalist’s heart as a guilt for writing something that doesn’t make any sense.
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Sad! As a trend, I have noticed that a good percentage of the makers of what I deem to be the better Indian cinema are media recluses. And irresponsible and uninformed media coverage of their off-screen ventures would not exactly make them change their stance either.
Personally this kind of juvenile media coverage makes me cringe. I will not take any names (cos it is too long a list) but it brings a bad taste to my mouth that a media that celebrates scene by scene remakes of foreign cinema as originals, choses to brand interactions like the industry blogs on PFC as a copycat effort. While this might be one-off, it does make me echo Oz’s question whether this is part of a larger concerted effort by MSM channels to deter the interaction between maverick filmmakers and the viewing public that are not unnecessarily the front bencher’s in the cinema halls.
What a ridiculous statement by Mid-Day?! Is every filmmaker copying the first ever filmmaker by making films? Jeez!
The internet is a medium for communication. It is a medium which enables great conversations. Some filmmakers started blogging years ago. Others are just starting to blog. What is heartening is that more and more filmmakers are using the online world to have great conversations. That is fabulous for us emerging filmmakers and those who are passionate about the medium.
Pavan - I hope you will continue to share your experiences and your experiments with us.
I dont understand what the hue and cry is for and I dont see any trash talk on mid-day either. Its a sarcastic humor and it should be left at that. At PFC, several authors have done/been doing the same. With headlines like “MiD Day Trash Talks on PFC Authors” and so, some here are only trying to seek attention. Also I dont think people are taking this in right perspective at all. AK himself mentioned in blogs and his writings that he did had complex and blogging helped him. Kaul can have similar issues and may not have for that matter but people in public life should be prepared for worst kind of humor which incidently the mid-day one is certainly not.
Some days back, mid-day was a good paper because it mentioned PFC in its article and now suddenly it has become a “dog’s ass wipe” paper??
- Jwalant, the issue is not that Midday criticizes us, we won’t really care about it. The issue is talking trash about an Author who has come here on our invitation to discuss and share his passion for cinema. I don’t think you got the “picture” at all… or perhaps you think PFC itself is a trash talking website. In that case I can’t help you much in seeing what we see.
No where did we mention in the past that midday is a good or bad paper… we simply thanked them for letting the world know about us. But in return if there was any kind of expectation that they can twist and turn facts in exchange for talking about us… then it’s not gonna happen. I know this is a template move by Midday which is used by many in the film media where they first praise, then trash the same person. It’s simple formula followed for years. Now if you expect us to sit quiet and not point their “mistakes” out… in spite of a few people who may find themselves in a delicate uncomfortable position… it’s not going to happen. Cinema for me is a visceral reaction and so is that article published on Midday.
Jwalant, get your facts right. PFC was mentioned in Mumbai Mirror, not Midday. Midday is nothing but sheer gossip. One can’t blame them for what they are doing. The scoops that they used to get before anyone else, is being fed directly by filmmakers to the public now. So obviously they feel threatened. You malign a filmmaker, you discourage other filmmakers from doing the same and communicating with you and me, who are genuinely interested in knowing about their work and thought process. We are the ones at the losing end, so we need to show some support so that filmmakers are encouraged to speak freely without having to worry about these tabloids.
http://www.planetbollywood.com/displayArticle.php?id=112006122954
@Vijay…Thanks for the link….
Hey Midday Journo
Check this out. Another “copycat” story for you to write. Peter Jackson is communicating with his fans from a fan site too: http://www.theonering.net/staticnews/1163993546.html
Filmmakers just cant stop copying each other can they?
Well written oz…It’s a stupid article written by a stupid journalist…
we sure do know what kind of illness this journalist needs therapy for…x( he needs some love and care…for his oh so funny and sarcastic article…b-(
Well said VC…in short “Get well soon Mamoo” @};-
- Sudha, #-o why didn’t I think of that before?
To the Midday journo - “Get well soon Mammoo” @};-@};-@};-@};-@};-@};-
Someone get his email address. Let’s all send him a get well soon Maamoo card.
Oz,
All cribs about the Indian judicial system aside, is there some legal action that can be taken? We can choose to take comfort in the belief that the reach of the Midday isn’t extensive enough for this to be damaging, but this post and the responses only indicate that it’s not a trivial matter. A strong response to the insensitive reporting without regard to facts will, if not anything else, will at least send the message that such calumny will not be tolerated.
I am unfamiliar with any of Pavan’s work, but if you have read my comments on his posts I am in LOVE with his writing.
That is what this site is about, exposing people like our featured writers, and the rest of you who I follow and love, to ideas, stories, and movies that we would otherwise not be exposed to.
And, I am upset about this article because it was just mean spirited. Is this typical of the Indian gossip pages? Way to make an impression on an American who isn’t familiar with snarky journalism, MiD DAY. Even our worst American rags don’t attack personalities the way this article did….
I tried to leave a comment on their site, but am getting errors when I try to login….
Superstarksa writes about the incident
http://superstarksa.com/2006/11/20/mid-days-juvenile-antics/
Oz: I just cross-posted the same post on Desicritics too. DC gets more hits than my own sad blog.
WTF is a “self-proclaimed blogger” anyway?
Actually the fact that PFC ‘belongs’ to a particular film maker, be it Anurag or Pawan or
Suparn in itself is a bit erronoues.
There are a good 20-30 odd authors and PFC is a collective blogging forum. These film makers represent the industry so that PFC fans (and amateurs) can know what the experiences /inspirations of people from the industry are ….. and can benefit cinema fanatics all over the world…
Anurag isnt the first film maker to start blogging nor will he be the last…. And before Anurag was blogging on PFC, there were a good 10-15 authors (including myself)…. does that make anurag a copycat ????? Does that mean ? Anurag is copying me ???? WTF !!!
Mid day journo…. can u please check your facts before publishing them ??????
I went to Mid day to put in a comment.. as expected they are blocking logins.
Pathetic and pitiable display of ‘media dadagiri’.
I know personally of journalists like Vicky Lalwani there who falsify, manipulate and spice up non-issues, with complete guiltlessness. Most celebrities run a mile on hearing his name or Midday’s today..so they resort to unverified, pernicious slander most of the time.
By this reaction of bloggers, it is clear now that the days of Mid day are limited. but not if used as Toilet paper..good sugestion there Oz.
Guys, I’m sure is made of better stuf to heed to this article. Its not the journalist who make or break a movie, its the paying public. And more than that it word of mouth that gets the pint across about a good movie.
I am sure Pavan is putting in his sincere & best efforts to produce a movie that all will enjoy.
These things are bound to happen. If we react to it, there would be more thrown at yes. As Sudha said, Get Well Soon Mamooo.
Pavan, as you see from the reaction on PFC we all are with you. Please do not stop writing. This is what makes you & Anurag stand up in crowd of directors who just follow the herd mentallity.
BEST OF LUCK WITH YOUR MOVIE
[...] In an almost unprecedented first, an uproar and cry against this article has been raised by bloggers..on the site ‘Passion For cinema’ strongly worded hit back by Oz and linked to other sites as well. Poor journalism, malicious intent and total illiteracy of Blogging is more than evident in the article. It is also clear that the journalist has not bothered even to read the articles or blogs he is referring to.. as claimed by him. The fact that he has not had the courtesy, decency, integrity, to speak/contact either Oz or Pavan Kaul before he lets off this snide snippet is reflective of the inentions of the story. What is supicious is also the lack of a by line, any evidence of the author, as had happened when the same tabloid a few days back carried an in-depth article in glowing praise of Anurag Kashyaps blog, on the same site.. no by line included…veiled in anonymity!! [...]
Sensation!!!!!!
Mid day or Mid night any newpaper or portal needs sensational news and if they write that Anurag Kashyap and Pawan Kaul writing blogs on PFC, then it does not make any good news. Its just a passing news where perhaps one can click on PFC once in a while. But if they make news that Pawan Kaul is immitating Anurag Kashyap then there are cues for clarifications, suggestions and to and fro allegations because then they touch ego of fans of Anurag and Pawan and that serves Mid Day’s purpose. But dear friends we ( PFC) should be thankful to Mid day as it mentioned and have fuled this controversy and now we will see a high season of clicks on PFC. Its neither bad for PFC nor for Anurag and Pawan.
Badnaam hue to kya hua charcha to hua. Its a good condition than ignoring our presence.
OZ: write a big thanks to Mid day!!!!!!!:)
Nobody immitates anyone as far as an area is concerned. When Mid Day was started first time did anyone accused them that they are immitating Illustrated weekly or Blitz or Filmfare etc ?
Certainly Anurag Kashyap did not invent this art of blogging so tomorrow Mid Day will quote that Anurag started blogging after seeing Mr White of Hollywood!!!
Blogging is a new field in the fields of creative writing expressions where one can enjoy freedom of expression more than any other field of writing. When Apaharn was released then Praksh Jha and his team Nana Patekar started blogs on rediff.com. Aamir Khan started blogging on MSN.com when his rang de basanti was going to be released or perhaps when Mangal pande was released. Why Mid Day does not report that.
So Mid Day is not any a standard to follow the trend so why to give weightage to such reports. If Anurag and Pawan dont get any misunderstanding because of this controversy than every other is wasting the energy in discussing this reporting.
Its good to devote that energy in writing articles. Pawan is writer of excellence and this crystal clear from his two postings. Not many writers of Mid Day can match writing skill of Pawan.
I see the party has been going for quite some time now. I read the article and it seems that its a gossip column. I tried searching in the web edition but could not find the same.
What was more disgusting was the article made a personal attack on Pawan Kaul.
The article is similar to the page 3 articles on “Bombay Times” suppliment of TOI.
Shit! It means that Mid-day is now copying TOI. Shame! Shame!
Wonder what they need to boost, thier sales or thier morale!
-Punds
Mid-Day is not a newspaper…it is a tabloid. Remember the Mid-Day Mate? It was an idea first started by The Sun. Shit!! Mid-Day is a copycat!! And now that the women in skimpy clothes have stopped attracting buyers, they are resorting to mud-slinging yellow journalism!
Maybe I’ll buy the Mid-Day to wipe my ass…oh wait…everyone else also wipes their ass…DAMN! I’m a copycat too!
~Manoj~
http://desicritics.org/2006/11/21/002753.php
“The journo at Midday failed to realize the fact that if he thinks he’s the baap in the media, we are the rebellious children of the Internet… ”
kya baat hai!
Sudha: Thanks for posting my Desicritics post link here. It’s just a cross post of my own blog posting that Oz put up here yesterday.
Guys,
RELAX! One article in the media and you people are overreacting? I am not condoning what has happedned obviously, but this happens all the time. As the site becomes bigger and better - along with the bouquets you will also get a lot of shit like this.Its the price of fame. Now we know when actors and actresses complain that the media wrote shit and nobody asked for their side of the story.
Welcome to the real, big bad world. Where egg-heads have the power of thepen and can create significant amount of nuisance! At least PFC is a star now.
Hi guyz,
rockin party i been noticin…
in da mood for some strippin too?….
But first No smokin…
Second: take a quiz…
Who was da producer of Kashyap’s ‘Black Friday’?
Any guesses?…
No?…I’m dissapointed guyz….
But hey, i promised a strip, so here it is…
The producer of ‘Black Friday’ is…MID-DAY…!
Hmmm…langotiya yaar…underwear buddies…both of ‘em…so come to your own conclusions boss…I’ve reached mine…!
And now continue smokin…if u like…!
Jo Black:
Almost all people know here what you are revealing that Mid-Day is one of the producer of Black Friday.
In court, motive is to seen behind any act. So what can be motive here?
Anurag and Pavan are not in to similar kind of cinema. So why there can be any kind of competetition? Whole world knows (except Mid Day) that Anurag Kashyap is not inventor or art of Blogging, so this point also does not make sense that Mid Day did this to insult Pavan because that makes Anurag’sposition strong. ultilately people were going to raise this point which you are suggesting that since Mid Day produced Black Friday so they tried to flatter Anurag. But watch closely and see if this is the case who is at harm? Pavan has to gain sympathy from all over and another controversy will seige Anurag. Anurag neither is foolish nor so high headed that would like such act.
What remains then?
1) someone wanted to bring confusion between Pavan and Anurag. Reasons unknown.
2) To create controversy about PFC, so that its black listed in diary of real filmi people
3) someone did it without thinking twice and even editor of Mid Day saw it after it was published and indoor scene will be different now. Because this event does not help their product “Black friday” to any extent rather its bringing black image to Mid Day and many people will treat Mid Day as a conspirator.
Mid Day hardly gets any benefits from this event. This is called ” Height of foolishness”
thats why its said” Think before you do/speak/write”
- RK, thanks for replying to JB… I don’t think he needs any more spanking since you’ve already taken care of that. Just wanted to add that Vijay did tell me yesterday that Midday has sold Black Friday to Adlabs.
[...] In an almost unprecedented first, an uproar and cry against this article has been raised by bloggers..on the site ‘Passion For cinema’ strongly worded hit back by Oz and linked to other sites as well. Poor journalistic ethics, malicious intent and total illiteracy of Blogging per se, is more than evident in the article. It is also clear that the journalist has not bothered even to read the articles or blogs he is referring to.. as claimed by him. The fact that he has not had the courtesy, decency, integrity, to speak/contact either Oz or Pavan Kaul before he lets off this snide snippet is reflective of the intentions of the story. [...]
That Mid-Day is a tabloid is well known. That it has underpaid wannabes pretending to be journos is now even more evident. Heck film journalism in India is something people just dont get. Every magazine worth its weight in newsprint resorts to gossipping. There are the few who are genuinely interested analysing films for the stories and the process that went into a making but those can be counted on finger tips, no less. In fact there are plenty of so called amateurs(termed wrongly so because they dont make a living writing) that write much more impeccably than people actually being paid salaries to do their job(Check naachgaana for an example).
Great that there has been universal indignation about some Mid-Day goonk writing unverified and misunderstood things and I join in that chorus as well, but in the end to what avail? It is only to be expected from them. Is this going to change future issues of Mid-Day….better off saving that prayer for another cause!