The Return of the True single screen HERO
Wanted may just be THE masala movie, the masses have been waiting for, THE movie which I’ve been waiting for, The movie I’ve been waiting to see with my fellow masses. As a dear friend would have put it, ‘In these times of pretentious mediocrity, Wanted may just bring a whiff of unpretentious kitsch, which could at least be reveled in with a guilty glee.’
‘The TRUE single screen hero’ bit in the title is a direct potshot at Akshay Kumar. As QGM would have put it ‘Enough of the self deprecating buffoonery, I say. Turn on the machismo, I say.’
Single screen cinema is Salman’s territory. I still remember the opening day box office report of Tere Naam. Inspite of the lack of pre release hype, dated looking trailers, Tere Naam managed a 90% occupancy all over. Nobody in their sanity would have predicted this. Salman’s pull over the masses shocked one and all in the industry. Tere Naam went onto become a box office hit, and Himesh Reshammiya rose above obscurity. Till date Himesh doesn’t miss a chance to thank Salman publicly.
Another instance when I encountered the Salman effect, was during the interval of Garv: Pride and Honor. There was a group of wannabes, and I don’t mean the hip low waist wannabes seen at multiplexes. I’m talking about wannabes seen at single screens, with torn boot cut jeans, embroidery laden back pockets, the jeans cap and the salman bracelet in their wrist. Here in Pune, some of us refer to them as ‘Khadki Dapodi public’. These guys were so bloddy impressed by Arjun Ranawat’s histrionics that they discussed how righteous he was and that is how a man should be. I burst out laughing. But then it struck me. It wasn’t Arjun Ranawat who was garnering the rave, it was Salman’s rendition of Arjun Ranawat that was being hailed. People were cheering throughout the film for every cross Arjun Ranawat made on screen.
I was never a fan of Salman, but pretty much saw what the fans loved about him. There still is a HERO-like aura about him. There still is a bundle of snobbish coolth in him. He still isn’t a good dancer, but still dances like a live wire with a joie de vivre ala Govinda. The era of punchlines may have passed but still the ‘commitment’ line featured in Wanted trailer evokes a sense of ‘masala pickchur delight’.
I’m not worried about the plot and narrative of Wanted, as the film on which it is based is a kickass badass telegu formula film with a major twist, Pokiri. But I’m worried about the execution of the plot, the punchlines, the overblown fights. Hindi masses aren’t so much used to the over the top treatment. And I hope Prabhu Deva has shed some of the southie elements and has pulled out the right punches for the hindi remake. Even if we discount the southie action, the punchlines have to work. They have to evoke serious hootings and whistling. Or else I’ll be disappointed.
At least the trailers of Wanted haven’t disappointed yet (except some run of the mill song promos). One trailer in particular displays some very strange kinda Prabhu Deva humor. The voice over in the trailer says ‘He walks casually, he kills casually, he loves casually, but he dances seriously’ and then we see our Sallu mia dancing to glory. Ha Ha Ha. After all it’s a Prabhu Deva film.
I’ll end with a list of my most memorable theatre going experiences.
Bade Miyan Chote Miyan:
Excitement for this one had reached the roof. Finally when the film started and the titles played with the Viju Shah music, One guy literally erupted from his seat, one hand up in the air and whistling with the other. The Madhuri song sent the masses into a frenzy. IMO one of David Dhawan’s best
Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha:
The Remo song was such a hit that people were crooning the title song on their way home after the movie. A great indianized rip-off by Anees Bazmee. Kajol stole the show.
RHTDM:
My first date movie. Confession: I still love this film
Satya:
I was pleasantly surprised when my dad was ready to take me for this A rated film that too in my exam season. It had a hammer strong effect on me. I was just in the ninth grade and I understood why it was rated A. Not just because of the violence and language, but because of the sheer power of the film
Company:
I somehow didn’t like the 2nd half of Company when I saw it the first time. So I thought of giving another chance to the film to affect me. I entered the theatre and the Urmila title song was going on. I was so damn exhilarated by the atmosphere itself.
Judwaa:
Couple of years after the movie’s release i saw it with a houseful crowd in a morning show. I just about managed to get a ticket! Another glowing example of Salman’s pull.
Matrix:
I went alone for this and encountered a houseful board. Somehow I convinced the black-marketeer to sell me the ticket at Rs. 40 as i didn’t have a single penny more than that.
Mission Impossible:
I was in the 8th or the 9th grade. I didn’t understand the plot at all but was just stunned by the slick events happening and the explosive action. I watched it again, but still had no luck with the plot. Was I such a dumb 9th grader?
Independence Day:
This was my first stint with aliens. The pre-climax speech by the president gave me goosebumps and the ‘boys I’m back’ moment makes this my most memorable Hollywood blockbuster.
Vaastav:
In a way this was my first illegal movie. I was in 10th and till then I had never lied at home and gone for a film (which became a die-hard habit in the coming years). The movie was in its 2nd week. And as this was a late box office bloomer, I had to buy the tickets in black, which always makes it more memorable. Right?!
Jungle:
I was not so keen on watchin this one but my friends forced me to come wid them. The show was houseful, but my friends had the tickets booked. 2 of my friends were driven out as the movie was Adults. The muvie blew me away. i can still visualise makrand deshpande running excitedly at the end.
Those were the days, I tell you!!!!!
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Good article…Salman seems rocking and the promos are well, so Salmanish:)
Hopefully pretty much a hard core masala movie with real elements…no those idiotic and mind numbers like OSO,SIK n KI which pass off in the name of masala entertainers.
Gaurang, nice throwback to the single screen thing. Well hoping Wanted will be a true blue, single screen, unpretentious flick kind, had enough of the Lucks, Races and all those wannabe cool stuff, trying to be hip, but turning out to be shallow. Pokiri worked in Telugu, because of some real bad ass dialogues, its not just that any OTT masala action flick works in the South, there have been some big time clunkers, of highly hyped overbudgeted masala flicks sinking like the Titanic at the BO. What went for Pokiri, was the fresh cast, Mahesh Babu proving that you could do a mass role, without resorting to OTT histrionics and screaming, and Ileana proving to be every guy’s dream gal, plus some real kick ass dialogues, which could be enjoyed only in Telugu. I hope the dialogue writers come out with some real good lines, of late i have seen the dialogue writing in most of the commercial Hindi cinema sucks badly.
Pokiri was great time pass. actually nice entertainment, even though it would be considered OTT. Mahesh was really suited to the role, Illeana was amazing. Great songs, fights and brilliant comedy. Plus dialogues were a big plus. It was a total paisa wasool movie. I certainly was amused to see salman mouth ” main ek baar commitment …” wala dialogue
. but i guess for mass who havent seen the telugu version, this probably is definite “single screen” movie…
Actually pulp/masala flicks are best enjoyed when they have good dialogue/script writers and backed up with great performances. Take Trishul it was pure masala stuff all the way, but the dialogues are brilliant, and AB, Sanjeev elevate the face off scenes, both of them without going too much over the top either. Also most of AB’s movies worked in the 70’s and early 80’s, due to some excellent dialogues by Salim-Javed and Kadar Khan, or what you call the “seeti maar” kinda dialogue.
Well Gaurang I share your feelings and expectations for Wanted.Frankly I’ve never been a Salman fan but always marveled at his ability to surprise us and keep himself alive in the rat race.I’ve been a major single screen lover and though I do visit multiplexes often these days- I still visit the single screens too.Its been ages since a pure kickass jhakaas seeti-maar Hindi movie was seen- none this year so far.
That in itself is making me all the more charged for Wanted.And the team of Wanted is suddenly looking like its getting its act right.Wanted is all around us now and thats good news for the movie.I’ve seen the Telugu version of Pokiri multiple times and even the Tamil version a couple of times.The movie worked in both the versions for reasons like great casting – not just the lead actors but the entire cast, kickass dialogues and some good action.Frankly there’s nothing really OTT in Pokiri- one of the more slick films from the South.
Oh! yes both versions of Pokiri also had a great soundtrack- something that Wanted hasnt really got it right.But still if all goes well Wanted could still go on to surprise us like a Garv or Tere Naam.
Sorry bro. No expections from Wanted. Aysha Takis is looking bad.
Am somewhat sceptical still, Athadu was quite a well made flick down South, but its Hindi version Ek-Power of One, was horrible, not 1 thing good about it.
yp. i agree. athadu was a very well made. Ek – sucked big time, nothing was right about it.
am really looking forward to Wanted, and have revised the original telugu version by watching it recently. however, i hv my doubts whether prabhu deva as a director wud b able to shrug off his OTT hangover and give a subdued / realistic treatment to this one.
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salman khan is best suited for these kind of roles, rather than playing those inane david dhawan comedies. its time we saw him in some real kickass stuff. and i can visualise the interiors of India falling over each other to catch this film.
The success of Ghajini has proved that the masala flicks still work in Bollywood. These flicks haven’t yet become obsolete. In recent times when most of the movies are based on the lifestyle of urban youth and people, movies like these can bridge the gap between the audience of metros and towns.
For me Pokiri was one of the best masala flicks I’ve seen in recent years. I wasn’t very much pleased on the casting. Ayesha Takia was no match for Ileanna and Salman Khan looked too aged to play the role of a young ruffian. Pokiri was all out Mahesh Babu’s movie. I’m excited to see Salman’s take on his role.
Yaar Ghajini was a big big bore for me, forget Memento and all that, even if one takes it as a masala flick, it was not at all entertaining at any stage. Yeah it was a hit, but somehow i felt the Tam version was way better, Surya did a better job compared to Aamir.
ppl were complaining about the “violence”
in fact it was toned down from the tam version…it’s success is just a fine example of efficient marketing…
Sirji, with all due respect, I was not talking about the personal liking here. The fact still remains that Ghajini was successful. I’m also not comparing the hindi and tam version. I was just stating that how these masala potboilers are still liked by the viewers in Hindi cinema.
I agree … Had it starred Sunny Deol instead of Aamir Khan, it would have ended in 15 mins … and with real bang
One thing ve seen repeated quite often in PFC forum … is will the southie style action go well with hindi audience… I am not sure why this point is repeated quite often, because I think the southie action have a lot of rawness, a lot of maar dhaad punch kick dhaad… instead of the hindi flicks post matrix, which has an effortless hero and a soul less fight… and thats exactly not what the audience wants… the action happening in southie flicks is surely going to be a hit, not cause they are hits in south, but they kinda keep you right at the high testesterone excitement levels… the kinds that Ajay Devgan did in the beginning of his days… the KICKASS STUFF… while south flicks have beautifully merged the techno matrix kinda works with ekdum jhakaas mard ka bachcha, mitti ka lal action, bollywood has the same Ajay Devgan standing on 2 bikes again, but this time for a title song, which is pretty disappointing… the other action is a lot more serious thinking and mental violence, the kinds in Sarkar or Gangajal… but the “le aaya mera sher” action has been missing off bollywood for a long time and the very fact that audience loves this action is unianimous hit of GADAR, the very macho Sunny deol takes it on himself to Fk everybody’s happiness around him, and the success of tons of Bhojpuri movies, which had the age old formula of Ravi Kisan having somebody raped in the family, silently parkours into the zamindar’s den, climbs up the building, 2 security guards with guns, takes on each one of em within 2 minutes, goes in fights another 100s…
mast masala…
I totally agree….Southy action is far more entertaining…Bollywood tries 2 imitate the slickness of Hollywood but I think they r yet 2 reach that level of competence…that is why those slo-mo stunts look fake & laughable…even the ones which critics lauded for their sleekness, looked very pathetic to me…
Even in hollywood, while the camera works and the moves happen, but those also are like 30 sec sequence within a high voltage action scene… say even in transformers or matrix, while we are amazed by the way the scenes are shot, the action, and the punch kick or high drama scene is so high that they fit perfectly.. what bollywood instead has is continuous slow motions of bikes taking 360 degree turn in the air and things like those, which lack that LIFE of action, and look like mere stunts… you feel like telling the hero ki baba ek solid mukka toh maar, ek toh jaan lagaa ke de de than show us your skills at parkour and kinds (courtesy Singh is King, Tashan and kinds… ) the life to an action is absolutely needed… thats why I think I can still remember “bol yeda, goli kaise lega, paani ke saath sode ke saath, whiskey ke saath, ya direct
)… tis the high level entertainment factor… than all entire action put together in Awara Pagal Deewana..
Kadar Khan and Salim-Javed were the best in those kick ass dialogues.
“Aisich, do baar hi aadmi bhaagta hai, Olympic ka race ho ya police ka case ho”- Amar Abkar Antony
“Apne hi ilaka mein kutte bhi sher hothe hai, Mahender Babu”-Lawaaris.
And all those dialogues in Trishul, Deewar, Sholay, Don memorable to date.
Agneepath is the proof of how masala movies are made… a lot of folks (I guess including you Ratna sir) think of Agneepath as a classic…. I somehow dont, but cannot deny of all those “appoinment” ..” baaaaiiiiii” … the entire set up makes it like a dhamal action movie… of course the BGM is full on…
I don’t rate Agneepath as a classic,in fact for me most of Mukul Anand’s movies are like “could have been better”, but it sure has excellent dialogues, especially the face off between AB and Danny. Kader Khan was one of the best dialog writers, but i guess after that David Dhawan phase, have not seen him active.
I personally think KK Raina is one of the most under rated dialogue writers… along with Rajkumar Santoshi, his dialogues hit you flat on your face…
Haha, I think the fake rape of Ileanna in the movie Pokiri would be totally cut off from the hindi version.
yes…like the blood dropping from water tape scene in ghajini…
People may have find it too violent but a scene like this was there in Gadar. What I meant is that rapes have become obsolete from mainstream hindi movies even attempted ones.
Thankfully yes… they made me real uncomfortable to watch a flick with any woman… to an extent they made sure I miss a lot of movies cause they might have had rape scenes… to think of it, the other day I was talking to a friend of mine in US and realised almost every actress in hindi cinema has played a rape victim .. how much ever big actress she was…I was thinking of somebody in PFC would make a post on how many successful actress have ever managed a role of a non rape victim… maybe apart from actresses today (Strictly today, even kajol and rani have played rape victims), most bolly actresses have always played a sexually offended woman at least once..
Bolly, ho ya Holly ho ya Kolly, for a kick ass action movie to succeed, it needs that kick ass “seeti maar” dialogue.
Die Hard would’nt have been half the fun without that “Yipee Ka Yee Mother fucker” of Bruce Willis. And more than Pacino’s gun wielding antics, its that “Say Hello to my Little Brother” that pumps up the adrenaline. Or Sean Connery’s “Crime fighting Chicago style” dialogue in Untouchables.
Problem with most of the Bolly action flicks in recent times, is the totally Lame dialogue. Just putting some slow mo action scenes does not make an actioner, u need the dialogues, the drama, the characters. Case in point Con Air, the movie rocked not just coz of the stunts, but its bunch of weirdos, each loonier than the other, and even in such a mindless actioner, u had Steve Buscemi’s kick ass dialogue about “Irony”.
absolutely… the action has to be made like a rice kheer, which has to have kaju, badam … basically the works… nothing beats an action movie where there is like this reason for which the fight has to happen, which also makes this hero mouth lines (Senti ya stylish, jaisa bhi) … one jaan ki baaji wala maardhaad… and a hero even within all this can show one round attitude…and give it the right mix of BGM and you are there with a masala entertainment… the baap of this all was Rajinikanth and while mohra and ghayal will elaborately show how all these effects make action so much cooler…
what makes it even more entertaining in Indian cinema (even in hollywood) is the not just the hero mouthing dialogues, but you have another one character, generally a woman, in agneepath tinnu anand, who keeps making the villian aware that the hero is going to be here anytime… gonna fk ur happines… it starts creating that environment and anticiaption… like maybe Ila Arun in most Santoshi Movies, this old lady in south flicks who starts announcing the arrival of hero … like Tinnu Anand shouting wo aayega,. and bamm AB lands up in the middle of the mess called Mandwa… dialogues, screenplay, the right actor, the pitch, tone… of things apart from only hero also makes a good solid ingredient to an action flick..
the vinod khanna ka 6 minute scene… just 6 minutes, but the impact wala 6 minute… is exactly the kind of scene build up I was referring to here…
Totally agree boss…I never feel the same kick after watching Sunny Deol as much as I feel after a Rajni or a Surya movie.
KICK… thats the word… the KICK is high in South flicks… thats why with most movies even if you dont understand the movie, you can end up watching it.. and then you look for sub titled versions to understand whats going on …
PS saab… please write a ‘Rounak Singh!!! nanga kardunaga main tumhe’ post.. I’ll be waiting!!!!
Personally I’m a fan of Southie action. I dont miss a chance to watch a telegu or tamil pickchur in theatre. Vikram in Bheema gave me the ‘maar bhenchod!!’ orgasms.
Actually in my post I was trying to point out the ‘kick the table, let the tools fly, hold on for a second and then volley kick a tool at the camera’ action. Personaly I loved it, but when I saw he trailer with people in a single screen (at the screening of Baabar. I’m giving this info, so that you would get an idea of the action-hungry audience), they burst out laughing at that scene.
I stiil remember Mahesh Babu’s entry in Pokiri. He is chasing or bieng chased, he jumps on a vegetable haat gaadi, almost freeze frame, in super slo mo, Mahesh Babbu seen amongst the vegetable still in the air. Now I really have my doubts how the janta would react to this.
Gaurang sahib, would love to write a masala movie post… lekin like so many lame audience, shabd mere se sirf responses mei hi nikal paate hai… kuch karne ko bolo toh taay taay phisss…
slo mo and split screen wali baat pe ek baar phir what I have to say is a masala action is still going to be enjoyed by multiplex audi or a single screen audi… slo mo .. single mei kabhi na chale… If Bheema is what you ve seen of Vikram, then you gotta see the flicks which made him the star he was in bheema, and you’d wouldn’t need a 3D glasses to get the feel … the point remains ki slo mo if used as a part of a high drama action, then it makes a lot of sense in the action, but when it becomes an emotionless stunt.. it sucks big time…
Vikram in Bheema is nothing great.Check him in out in films like Sethu ( the original of Tere Naam), Saamy,Dhool,Pithamagan ( rocking combo along with Surya),Anniyan etc- he’s a realy dynamo!!!
Unfortuanately, I’ve been able to catch only Anniyan out of the list. And he rocked it. Boy!! Even the bad hindi dubbing couldn’t mess up his intensity.
In bheema, in particualr I remember the sequence in rain, where Prakash Raj is confronting some guy and Vikram stands besides him and punches the guys on the other side. and after that the 20 on 1 fight. VIkram is a bloody powerhouse man!! he made that bashing 20 men at a time credible. He is THE hunk in our whole indian film industry!
Sadly, it looks like he was the hunk.. these days he seems to be doing the same mindless action flicks with super natural powers or like a super capable hero, than the “a hero arises from common man” or “when everything fails, power arises from common man” set up, which made him the star today … rajinikant on the other hand still sticks to the format… and continues to see results..
Am with u on this PS, Chittan in Pithamagan generated more raw intensity and agony, than a dozen Bheemas, Kanthaswamy’s put together.
be it any language of a film, you ultimately root for a hero who is fighting a set up or a cause which looks stronger than him …thats possibly why I never found krishh to be an action flick at all .. though the look was given more like batman, to me agneepath was feel of Batman, Manwa being India’s Gotham, and the walking the wrong doing the right batman bein Vijay Dinanath Chauhan..
The Rock again not just the action scenes, but even the tense face off scenes between Cage/Connery, and then the scenes with Ed Harris, added up to the effect. You felt for Ed Harris, even though he was the bad guy. The desi remake Qayamat, on the other hand had some pathetic performances from Sanjay Kapoor/Arbaaz Khan as the villians.
Action flicks just does not involve great looking stunts, you also need smart dialogue, memorable characters, tense dramatic moments, to make it a worthwhile experience.
Qayamat had one of the most hilarious dialogues of all times
“jab tak mumbai mein hai Haji Ali, tab tak kya kar lenge Abbas aur Ali”….
Boss the whistles that followed this one at a Bandra single screen hall were deafening…….
Oh!! I very well remember that!! Qayamat fucked up on all the things that made rock great but it setup Devgan’s depressed/bottled up/brooding character to unleash his fury, so damn gloriously, I couldn’t stop myself from cheering him in his film’s first outburst in the sewage lines after he hears ‘Ajay(I dont remeber the character name), I love you.’ from Neha Dhupia who is called specially to jagaoo the sher!! And the film maintained that energy there onwards. Before that scene, Qayamat was a Shetty movie, where he doesn’t die after about 50 bullets and 5 stabs. As usual he starts salivating, which is his way of displaying the never-die attitude.
And it also proved, Shetty needs an Akshay or Ajay or Sunny or atleast another shetty. Remember, Shetty has only one solo hit and in that too he is in a double role ;)
Yeah i remember that Shetty movie….”mere do do baap” and more than healthy Shilpa Shirodkar doing that wet number
What? Is Gopi Kishen the only solo movie of Sunil Shetty which was a hit? I thought Rakshak and Bhai were hits too while Krishna etc. were decent ones.
Solo Hits and Averages of Sunil Shetty:
Hits:
Anth – 94
Gopi Kishen – 94
Bhai – 97
Average ones:
Balwaan – 92
Krishna – 96
Rakshak – 96
It is true that most of his hits are in multi-starrer.
Akshay-Sunil is probably the best combo of the last 2 decades. Almost all their films are big hits. (Not counting Jaani Dushman…that is something special)
Survival of Sunil Shetty is the only reason I think Uday Chopra can make it as well…one thing I dont know about a lot of our heros… why do they build up huge packs and packs of body and then do romantic roles only? case in point, take and Uday Chopra, give him a gun in his hand, maybe a ripped shirt or something, minimum dialogues, minimum expressions, and let him loose like a mad assassin and I can still think of decent b grade masala action flicks, than him doing a Neal n Nikki, and the ‘i bring love’ in mujhse dosti karoge and crap….
and absolutely valid point.. Sunil Shetty Marta hi nahi hai yaar.. pakaa dega lekin marega nahi .. I hope in the next movie when he is supposed to die, somebody ties a bomb in his mouth and it explodes…
Ajay’s character name was Rachit….(dunno why I remember this)
…BTW another gr8 scene was the one where the Paki general cuts the tricolored cake that looks like India’s map…
Sean Connery( Ajay Devgan) was good, but Nicholas Cage( Ashish Choudhury), Ed Harris( Sanjay Kapoor/ Arbaaz Khan) sucked, as for Carla Gugino(Riya Sen), god i wished so bad that she gets bumped off as soon as possible.
don’t forget Neha Dhupia’s Ursula Andres act..it was highly publicized…& 2 be honest I liked it…
…..anyway replacing Nicholas Cage with ashish choudhry was definitely suicidal…
I miss those old days of masala tashani action movies like Agneepath, Ghayal, Ghatak etc… I am hoping Wanted to be good action movie but Salman does not have that rawness of Rajnideva, Surya, Sunny paaji or Big B…Salman can fight, can do some kickass stunts but what about that dhishum dialouge delivery. It is the dialouge delivery, which brings power to the action..which Salman can’t get with that firangi style of speaking…but no doubt it is going to be a bumper opening this friday….
I may be in complete minority… but honestly, I liked Shahrukh Khan the action guy more than than the all in love SRK… he carried that rawness when he started, be it Darr, Baazigar, Karan Arjun, Ram Jaane, or the action in DDLJ… he carried that passion kinds, like yeah m puny but m gonna everything that this fight is gonna take kinds… one of those m not macho but give me what you gotta give and ll take it kinds…
agree… he had shown that in Darr and Baazigar but later i think he lost himself in feel good cinema… but still what ever public may say about him SRK is great… may be everybody does’nt like it, but for me he is…!
he is just lost man … lost and bored… as much lost and bored as I am in my company .. i got the chance of switching jobs… in his case he doesnt… so unlucky guy, plus he s got a lot more to lose by taking chances than what ll ever have.. so he seems to be making movies the way he knows he will get his returns.. chalo bahut hai.. time pass kinds… he will come back … one day… (just that before he does media will kill all of it with allthe hype possible) but yeah that guy d come back.. maybe the day he will be back into the stage of nothing to lose…
may be we could see some change in My name is Khan… may be…
nah.. SRK is still playing within his safe zone.. its not just about the story or script anymore, he has to explore with other people who can get the stuff out of him, than people who will adjust camera and story to suit his expressions…
or in Army. For a change he said Aeeey…in stead of K K K…
@ PS Inshahallah… aisa hi ho…
I liked two SRK movies….
1. Anjaam … where he beats the crap out of Madhuri
2. Darr … where Sunny pajji beats the crappest crap out of him
:D
I hope Wanted is released in Westend, Pune. Salman Khan movie in Westend is a different experience all together.
And also Neelayam, Alankar, Laxminarayan and Mangala. All these single screens at prime locations attract the seeti maar crowd.
I guess I’ll be watching in Mangala or Rahul. The sound at Alankar and Neelayam is bad and Laxminarayan is pretty far for me.
Have you ever tried Vasant? :D
arre bhai log, date, place aur time fix karo, sab milke pune mein wanted dekhte hain. gaurang, u hv my cell no i hope. make it on fri eve if possible.
@Satyendra
How would be friday last show for you, I’ll be booking tickets today eve or tomorrow mostly at Rahul or Mangala. If Mangala is playing the nite show in Screen2, we’ll go to Mangala, coz the Screen1 Dress circle is very uncomfortable. But I know only you, how do we jamao other public?
@B
msg or call me at 9881240987
Sorry mate I am in Bangalore :(
Lets catch up some time later… I am sure Wanted will be a big bang … we can watch it more than once
@B
A Very clean theatre but with bad sound. The last movie I saw there was Main Madhuri Dixit banna chahti hoon.
I’ve yet to visit Vaibhav, Gunjan, Shreenath, Jaihind.
Arrey bhai, Victory kya awesome ho gaya hai after E-square acquired it. But sadly it runs empty.
I so strongly pray/wish/hope that Wanted is a big bang.
Any fan of Big Brother (not of Shilpa devi, the Sunny Paaji-Priyanka…well it doesn’t matter who the heroine was film) would vouch that Paaji still has that in him. He just lets others to be like him. Salman and Aamir are doing the job because Sunny Norris is sleeping.
Have seen Big Bro. but not a fan of it. The movie was lost in the mannerisms of Sunny.
We are in need of some young actor who could step in the shoes of Sunny. All the new comers like Imran, Ranbir etc. look so sissy.
only if they could plan up a fast and furious mindless pikture with loads of masala and oomph with Uday chopra and Sohail khan, and throw in some masala scenes like biceps bulging while they are having an arm wrestling game going on on top of the willis tower or some shit…. that ll be the day we can imagine a possible.. pooooosssible another sunny deol, considering that today indian cinema is so much more about feel good, than Arjun, Prahaar, Ghayals… (Waise I proud to be an Indian was an out and out masala.. watch it once..)
Sunny was not just action, he had that anger in his dialogue delivery too, witness the scene in Ghayal when he shouts at the cops in the police station, you can feel that anger, intensity pounding out. Can’t imagine Uday Chopra doing a “Taarik Pe Taarikh” kinda scene, he would screw it with his lame ass dialogue delivery. Guys like Uday Chopra, Sohail Khan & co, think action is just about having a 6 packs, flaunting muscles, they forget things like dialogue delivery and expressions.
Agree..Sunny is not about only action… no body can say the way Sunny says.. bahut pachtaoge inspector agar mujhe zinda chordiya to… I am one of the biggest fan of Ghayal…and that adalat scene… Gupta.. i will kill you bastard.. and those expressions when he saw Mousmi Chattarji going…what to say…I wish we could see him back…
Last time I saw anyone coming near (still too far) Sunny Pajji was Bobby Deol in Badal
sir high intensity wala artist toh ek hi hai ab, thats vivek oberoi, lekin as much as sunny carries a look of “I ve been wronged its my responsibility to make things right, if that means madness”, Vivek oberoi carries high arrogance look… to top that salman khan ke chalte career bhi doob gayaa hai … warna within say Vivek oberoi wali intensity, and abhishek bachchan ki sarkar wali image we could ve had some more maardhad action flicks… just that we need directors who either come out of the feel good fixation or the over the top special effect using actions… waise Uday was decent in Supari… not great, but give him his time, Sunjay Dutt ki dialogue delivery bhi k time pe kuch khaas nahi thi … managed all this while…
Vivek Oberoi, could have made a good action hero, but he screwed his career up with some lousy choices, and somewhere down the line got stuck in a rut playing the spoilt rich brat. Lets see what RGV’s latest flick would do.
@PS
I don’t care about
a) “bad choices” – people have to do things sometimes which may not be most logical (like for money)
b) “Salman se panga” – what people do outside the screen are purely for the consumption between 7.30-7.35 AM when I read the Bombay Times.
But Vivek Oberoi was a good case in point…. Maya Dolas is the only decent villain “le aaya mera sher” “ek solid mukka toh maar, ek toh jaan lagaa ke de de” types in recent times.
The only reason I guess why Shootout does not qualify as a true blue action kitsch is because the hatred for the villain was not a case of personal vengeance.
@ Sucker , yaar for quite a few of us Vivek Oberoi Salman Khan spat gets over at 7.45PM… lekin for zillions… (almost huge set of population who will be watching Wanted first day first show and buy salman clothes by the time the second show gets over) hate Vivek Oberoi jus cuz of Salman Khan… my classmates, my friends who loved him in Sathiya and company and thought of him as the next best thing, took an absolute U turn 1 week post the press conference… and still havent changed their opionions… wierd but true…. and thats why media keeps playing that also na… over and over …
its also believed that people from film industry started keeping distance from Vivek, to make sure not to irk Salman Khan… ab Hindi film industry mei, even Ashish Choudhary has Sohail or sanjay dutt or jackie shroff somebody supporting him, Vivek looks like he’s spinless in matters of support… and to think this guy is from the film fraternity, who would’ve known folks for years, thoda jaada hi he’s been kept away … but for sure he carried that punch … even a small glimpse of his swagger in the title song of DUM shows that..
You mean like..Udai Chopra with a “Date par Date..date par date…aieela..mummy!!!” dialogue?
@ Jahan
From what i know, Fox is more of Arjun Rampal and less of Sunny Deol, something which puts off audiences. On his own Arjun Rampal can’t draw in the audiences, and Sunny Paaji’s fans would be disappointed seeing him in a side character.
yaar sunil shetty hams through dialogues for 20 years… “mairi behain ko chod de, puleez”, never thought high electricity KKK Kiran would one day simper with “dil ne kisi ko dil se chaha hai” … see very old Sanjay Dutt movies and see him stammer… (Shakti Kapoor had a better dialgoue sense) and he pulled off a munnabhai …. I am not an uday chopra fan as well, lekin in today’s set possibly between him and Sohail Khan the industry has the most “raw beef” action bodies… baaki sab (sorry if this sounds rediffish) look like they go to the gym, build bodies, then get their nails filed, manicure, pedicure, 4-5 basketball, 5-6 yoga and pilettes session… come on… dino morea, sudhanshu panday, ashmit patel, zayed Khan… none of them have the “Phata poster nikala HERO” wali baat…
@ Ratna sir… Sohail is not that bad in action yaar… I think the strength of Sunny Deol’s action movies when he was real young was that he was always shown as this reslient and full of anger guy, who just goes around screwing happiness off villians… his dialogues wale scenes were never that relevant in the movie (watch arjun, and how he talks to anupam kher, it is kaccha), he evolved into a good dialogue delivery guy slowly, and then Santoshi happened…. between Santoshi and KK Raina, they come up with the most furious dialogues (Damini remains a killer… Bijli ki taar pe patang… mai woh bilji ki taar hoon ki jhatka maaro toh khatakna bhool jaoge… the movie was full of brilliant dialogues, not just for sunny deol but also amrish puri), and I guess sunny had started doing the talk …
but similarly watch Sohail Khan doing an “apologise.. APOLOGISE” scene in I proud to be an Indian… if he can shed his “i am salman khan ka brother, loads of influence money image” then he might be able to build it up….
@PS
I so much agree with you on Sohail Khan. I still remember the “I….Hum I” BGM chant from I, proud…. just becoz of Sohail Khan. He CAN KICK ASS. The first half of Maine dil tujko diya was pretty decent, infact Sanju Baba bhi 2nd half mein dhamaal machata hai. But the film couldn’t maintain that angst/energy throughout. But anyways the point is the ‘jump on the car and the windows explode’ scene. There was the potential, but now, its different. I couldn’t motivate myself to watch Kisaan. I see the potential no more :(
@ gaurang.. the car scene was absolutely mind blowing, though my credit still goes to micheal jackson for it.. he was brilliant to make a step of making this tiny singing guy go up ona car, hold his crotch and shout, to explode the windows out.. (song : the way you make me feel)… sohail khan lost it when he started playing “i have the film industry in my hand” attitude… callous movies, easy aproach … this guy needs to be directed by some other raw director… tigmanshu dhulia and suparn varma made Uday chopra look better yaar.. Sohail khan .. needs a raw director…
Indian was watchable and i think that was the last time we experianced sunny Paaji…not fully but some what. In current generation, I dont think somebody has that fire to get into shoes of Sunny. BTW Sunny paaji still can deliver, the only thing he need is good director having a script which could do justice to his calibre. I hope Sunny and Santoshi may clear thier differences and come with another jhakas. Santoshi has given good movies without Sunny but he is unable to create the magic of Ghayal, Damini and Ghatak…Sunny paaji please leave gems like Guddu Dhanoa and Deepak tojori and come back with the same DHISHUM….
For a change, Sunny Paaji was very good with Guddu Dhanoa as well. (Deva ki adalat paanch bajah ke baad shuru hoti hai ) 90’s gave a very different twist to masala flicks with Guddu Dhanoa-Sunny Deol-Dileep Sen/Sameer Sen knowing exactly how to please people. Those days are gone, man!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC1GPPhXoYw
There are no takers of Sunny and no fans of him even here on PFC. Just see his recent movie Fox still has 0 rating in Guerrilla reviews.
@Jahaanpanah – calling Fox a Sunny Deol movie is sacrilege.
So what was last solo movie of Sunny? Was it Kaafila? The last good movie by him was The Hero: Love story of a spy.
Ziddi was the only watchable flick of Sunny Paaji-Guddu Dhanoa, Salakhen was a headache( except for Anupam Kher’s role), and the rest, were tortures.
Love Zee Cinema for this… Zee cinema continuosly played these movies along with a mix of nagarjuna dubbed flicks late nights veryday… they were dhamal fun to see before going to bed… “saathon bhaiyon ko maarunga, ek ek karke maarunga”… it was the best to see before you sleep, badi contended aur satisfied neend aati thi, ki chalo gundon ko peet diya hai..
Last Sunny Deol solo flick was Big Brother.and before that he did Kaafila and Teesri Aankh.Fool N Final was a multistarcast film.I thought Naksha and Jo Bole So Nihal might do a decent business- but no it did not.But in Heroes I got a brief glimpse of the vintage Sunny-remember the tile breaking fight scene?
Jo Bole was sheer torture, hard to believe that it was the same Rahul Rawail, who had earlier given such wonderful movies like Arjun, Dacait. But actually liked Apne, the boxing scenes were good, and even the family scenes too.
As far as I know, Jo bole was funded by the liquor king of north India, Ponty Chadda. The guy has too much money, just wanted to drown it somewhere
Apne proved one thing for sure, baap baap hi hota hai…..it is watchable solely on the basis of Dharmendra’s performance….
Ratnakar – If you have any image of Rahul Rawail, I dare you, I double-dare you watch Buddha Mar Gaya. Sheer hair splitting guilty pleasure.
Hero was sunny paaji last decent movie, some scenes were quite good like that one where he saves Preeti from terrorists in Jungle…or woh lalkar…hai koi or…koi nahi hai.. who could compete with Sunny..
but his last good action film was Indian..
yes Indian was his last good movie though I liked The Hero too. It’s been almost a decade since he has delivered.
U should include Border too…. People just went wild with shouts of Bharat Matha Ki Jai and Pakistan ki Maa ki Ch***….
That was one hell of a experience…..
Also Hera Pheri was good single screen watch
Best tha yaar woh
so true man…..all the while I was reading this post, I was wondering, why isn’t anyone talking about Border? That would rate as one of my best Single Screen movie watching experiences
man when Sunny bashes that Pakistani army officer on phone was wonderful …
Sunny bashing Akshaye Khanna while finding terrorists.
Sunny walking till Pakistan 0 kms milestone.
Too many moments.
Somedays ago saw Jeet again … man that was magnificent
I actually liked Border, whatever its jingoistic tone and all, it was very well shot, sadly after failure of LOC, not many want to risk taking another war flick.
In the horde of the actors in LOC where was Sunny paji. I missed him in that movie.
Jahan saab, was referring to war flicks in general.
south indian films do not hv this image-fixation as far as maar-dhaarkickass action is concerned. so, despite kamalhasan making intellectual movies lately, he still does a vettaidu villaiyadu and ppl go crazy over his dialogue delivery or action.
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surya packs a lot of punch in his action sequences, be it ghajini or kaaka kaaka, or even in tam version of yuva. that rawness is missing in any of the hinid-film heroes these days.
Satyen, that has usually been a feature of Kamal’s career, he does the “meaningful” stuff, and then follows it up with a more masala flick. But even in the more serious movies, you see that rawness in his action, for eg, Virumandi, it was action in it’s most raw form, coarse, gruesome, teriffying. Abhay had the potential to be a cult, but Suresh Krishna messed it up big time.
i agree with u on virumaandi. it had rawness of thevar magan. anyway, thefact that chocolate-faced mahesh babu coulf wield such rawness in his fights and dialogues signified the success of telugu pokiri.
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those movies, irrespective of the language, which try to ooze coolth fail miserably toevoke any kind of raw sentiments among the viewers. the new don (in all the languages) is a classic example. i watched the telugu version (prabhas) recently in vizag,and it was so bad, it was cringe-worthy.
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wht i like abt mahesh babu is tht he never shouts a la sunny paji to put his message across, but his cool demeanour is so chilling coz he means what he says, and eve prakash raj’s character realises the menace and the consequent damages… thts seeti-maar stuff…
also Background music always has been brilliant for mahesh babu, be it continous music or just the swish sounds while he is moving a danda in his hand… there is a precision… and BGM is pretty important… thats why even a dead pan bobby deol movie called Gupt was a classic… something .. dialogues or the BGM has to evoke that edge of the seat feeling…
Vis a vis Farhan Akhtar’s Don, while the Don character was cool enough, it fell short in the Vijay character, SRK just couldn’t bring that “dehati” ethos to the role. FA’s Don i guess worked only because of the twist ending.
@Ratnakar
I don’t ascribe to the theory that “the twist in the end” was the reason for Don being a hit.
If you remember, this movie ran the most agressive marketing campaign for any Excel movie. And part of the reason for this aggressive campaign was SRK. Yes we all know he has mastered the art and behaves more like a businessman, but then this movie had much higher stakes for him.
1. He wanted to diversify – YRF/KJo cannot do justice to him always, and for how long can he try FK’s dumb movies. FA was the next best choice.
2. He wanted to change his image – Having not tested CDI till then and having faced the failure of Swades, he wanted to ensure people accepted him something different.
3. Develop a franchise – This I feel is the most important reason. HR has a Krissh now and SD a Munnabhai… In the bad times (which are inevitable as age catches up), it’s a franchise which is going to save him. so if Sly has a Rocky, BW a Die Hard, AS a Terminator, HF an Indy… why not our SRK have one as well…. I won’t be surprised, if FA refuses to make another one (it’s been reported that SRK’s almost begging him and you should see FA’s show where SRK comes), then one day he might just buy out the rights for it for Red Chillies to produce.
Once marketed like that, even Ghajini can be the highest grosser ever. (I am sorry but I don’t see any difference between OSO/SIK/ Ghajini… for me they are all well marketed mega blockbusters which can be called that even before their release)
@Arthi Sorry for the digression
Well u have a point about franchise, but honestly though fail to see how Don can be made a franchise, the character is not a superhero per se, nor even a vigilante kind ala Dirty Harry, unless now Vijay becomes a gangster battling vigilante hero kind.But as of now don’t see any 1 really interested in turning this into a franchise.
Regards Ghajini, i am on with u,for me it was just another movie marketed well and did well, but Aamir sure is a smart marketer, he managed to woo those people who otherwise did not think too highly of OSO/SIK.
@Ratnakar below (sorry can’t see a Reply button there)
Regarding your point on the franchise, well I don’t think SRK cares about Vijay (a case in point being what you said above)… they all care about the cool dude “jiski talaash sirf 11 mulko etcetc”…. I used to pretty much wonder how this franchise could be built… but then RKH showed the way in Lage Raho…. So as long as there is an identifiable character, its possible to make a franchise out of it.. Munnabhai 2 just had the 2 characters from Munnabhai 1. The rest of the story line was not connected…. (I guess on the issue of franchise building there can be a separate post from one of the smarter writers)
Regarding Ghajini.. I know what you are saying with regards to Aamir…. I agree with you that he is “smart”, but I disagree that he is a “smart marketer”…. Slight difference… let me explain… Unlike our good old very obviously OTT SRK, AK has never gone out in a “besharam” way marketing his movies…. So realising that this was his first (and potentially last) time, he went all out thereby managing to woo the so called “OSO/SIK Bashers”, who took his word at face value because of past experience… For him to be proved a “smart marketer” he will have to woo the same crowd once again for another stupid flick he makes…. But I doubt that’s ever going to happen (Once bitten….)
On another note, I hope his payout in Ghajini had an equity portion (not just a fixed payout)…. His shameless marketing should atleast pay for his experiments with his nephews/ nieces/ kids/ brothers/ wives etc…..
@ sucker… Aamir Khan is any day a better marketing person than SRK… and all in positive light (dont know whats wrong in calling somebody a good marketing genius) … he has continously kept the audience eager to watch his movies, he makes sure to find audience and make them watch his movie… unlike SRK, whose OTT approach has stopped leading him to any greater position… Aamir.. has not only strengthened his movies with his marketing strategies, but has created a brilliant image for himself, as a brand.. (SRK loyalist Prahlad Kakkar was convinced that a child labor ad can be to a 100% only by aamir, so hasnt made the ad yet, since aamir refused) shown himself as a great director (TZP was great… ) a great producer (JTYJN was okay, fun, not a great cinema) .. any given day Indian cinema still revolves around STAR… and Aamir re wrote rules as a brilliant concept as the ‘thinking star’ … (though i still think quite a bit of it is dirty, but who is not dirty in cinema industry marketing… ) SRK on the other hand is a insecure marketing guy, who need Karan Johan and gang to keep making statements and comments in press, reality shows, awards and kinds to push his movies… even in his hatke movies (he has a good share as well) he mixes all the elements that he thinks are commericial and shows his ’successfully best’ profile, of songs with the same Farah Khan steps, a dance number, ‘itna pyaar mein duniya’ feel, waiting for directors to establish themseleves and then do a one bit cinema with them UNDER his production… and that definately shows his lack of confidence as a marketing person … rather a salman suddenly going to remand homes, and fashions show stopper is better marketing effort…
@ Prasanna… peace mate… was not comparing SRK or AK…. please this is not STAR NEWS (aarrggghhhh)…. Just wanted to put a point across that I don’t consider AK to be a super smart genius marketer… (That position I still reserve for the guy who scored a 4.0 in my batch in the course Mark Mang – I
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ps. I agree that SRK is no better…
pps. I was 3.91
@ sucker… hey… m sorry if sounded like a personally wounded person or something… perils of purely only written communication (wow all this while I thought i was trying to keep an easy going lingo)
.. going fwd will ensure to use more smileys… i was just putting up some pointers to debate on … than as “the final judegement”
Kamal Haasan’s action movies like a Virumaandi or a Vettaiyadu Vilayadu are always a cut above the regular action flicks.The intro scene in VV is one of the best for an action star.
Mahesh Babu is not your typical loud dialogue delivery guy.he is very suave and subtle.Pokiri worked majorly due to his cool dude persona- fabulous.
Even liked Satya, the Tamil version of Arjun, fantastic performance by him, and he looked so convincing beating the crap out of the goons.
Again Nayagan, technically not an action flick, but the scene where he kills the inspector, violent, gritty, raw.
Aamir Khan makes a good action hero, he was pretty good in Baazi( liked the movie inspite of its Die Hard ripped off climax), Ghulam(though him taking on Sharat Saxena in the climax looked somewhat silly for me). But his best was in Sarfarosh, to date his best performance, his verbal showdown with Naseer in the climax was brilliant.
And speaking of Naseer saab, he made one of the best kick ass characters in Jalwa, and even in masala stuff like Tridev, Karma he was first rate doing the maar dhaad stuff.
Ratna sir, you forgot Naseer saab in Mohra……thats how a villian ought to be, equally kick ass as the heroes
You are right about Aamir, he brings that intensity into action scenes even if he does not look physically dominating….the scene in Sarfarosh where he grabs the guy in the hospital and doesn’t let go of him, and then laughs in the end….what a performance….ditto for Ghulam…no other actor of similar size could have pulled off fighting Sharat Saxena…..
Avn, kick ass villians bole to, thats another topic altogether.
I am no Salman fan either. But I wont be surprised if Wanted is a hit! And the industry really needs one! And if the film works, great! It’s nice that all kinds of movies work .. It keeps variety coming.. And for people who dont endorse this kind of cinema always have the choice of staying away! Am sure there are lakhs of Salman fans out there who are eagerly waiting for Wanted. And the Eid is only going to make it bigger!! For the sake of the industry, I hope Wanted works. It’s been a shitty year, commercially.
The industry does need these kinda hits. Considering Akshay has graduated to inane comedies, and Ajay Devgan’s career is in No Man’s land, am hoping Salman does bring back the single screen super hero.
Ya maybe it doesnt need these kind of hits. But jo hit hona hai, woh toh hoga. Public ne SiK ko hit kiya, Bhool Bhulaiyya ko hit kiya. I keep getting surprised at the amazing variety of films that work here!! I dont like many hit films, but that doesn’t matter! I am not every filmmaker’s target audience.
Am no fan of either Akshay or Salman. It really doesnt matter to me who gets crowned the Single Screen Hero. But I pray that the audience comes back to the theatres. I miss the single screen movie experience too. Although I dont think I will be seeing Wanted. But I’ll be following the collections keenly. This should be fun!!
Bro,
sorry to differ but Ajay Devgan is doing pretty well. Goldmaal and Golmaal returns were two big hits of last years and going by the promos of All the best it agains looks like a runaway success.
Yaatri..Golmaal and golmaal returns were no doubt big hits, but we know Devgan for some different kind of films. If commercial success is the only thing to be consider, then what about cinema. Commercial success is also important but there are few actors who can keep the fire burning for cinema and I think Ajay Devgan is one of those…We have akshay, salman etc for commercial success (only) but from ajay we expect both and he is the one who can give us both and I think he will deliver in Rajneeti…
@ Yaatri- Golmaal and Golmaal Returns did very well.And yes All the Best could be another big hit- but then these are all multistar cast movies and with due to respect to Ajay Devgan, I dont think he can take a lot of credit for the movie’s success.Its a team effort.I still feel he is much better in intense roles- be it in action movies like Vijaypath or Phool Aur Kaante or in mushy flicks like Pyar to Hona hi tha or Dil kya kare.Let him do a solo comedy and prove he is comfortable and I’ll agree.Would be great to see him again in a cool action movie.
Waiting to see Ajay Devgan doing double somersaults in a car, not to give a rose to Bipasha but maybe do some villian ki pitaai..
Wanted for sure will rock box office till Tuesday due to Eid.After that how well it fares we will have to wait and watch.
My concern still is wafer thin plot and twist in end.It will OTT for sure, but let us how salman plays the character.If you listened to Jalwa it has all the essence of Tamil-Telugu hero intro song.
As for dialogues,the one which i love most is ”Tu Ladki ke peeche bagega, ladki paise ke peeche, tu paise ke peeche bagega ladki tere peeche”.
They have even lifted from Sivaji-The Pig Dialogue .
In Hindi Film Industry there are few actors who can pull raw action now, in current generation apart from Hrithik nobody comes to mind.
Bobby in Bardasht was good.How can one forgot Garv, it has one of the most stupid twist.Sohail was good in I Proud to be an Indian.
Gopichand is again of my fav,the climax of Andhrudu was mindblowing.
How can one forget Captain Vijaykanth,
@Gaurang,
Judwaa is one of my fav,it is one of those films where it was better than original.
Yaar Hrithik also looks too dignified (or at least has maintained himself all this while like that) for raw masala action movie… you gotto see a few guys down south … I dont follow them much so maybe they might give a dingified image overall, but when you look at this guy “silmbarasan” (i guess the name is right) as a visitor to south movies, you can see this wierd uncouth guy who looks absolutely the opposite of great, but you can see that rawness in him … Hrithik looks way too dignified for hardcore raw action… he looks like a dedicated fighter than a street punk
Silambarasan is more popular as Simbu, but u wanna see raw uncouth guy, look no farther than Dhanush, at times it does look odd to see his lanky frame beat up half a dozen guys, but he projectss anger in its most raw form.
Oh! yes Dhanush is damn cool.Check him out in movies like Kadhal Kondein or Polladhavan- you’ll get hooked.
true, but I saw one movie of Dhanush … dont remember the name (sethu sir help) .. he is this guy who becomes a goon … sleeps with arthi agarwal, marries another one… hopes to stand for MLA position and when he tries to rebel he finds that he is not the only one who thinks he’s got the power… and he is just another pawn in the “higher powers hands, wen his magical sword fails to scare the other goons as they would to the local public… that movie changed him for me a bit… Simbu.. has always been the uncouth, brash, guy … m mean there has never been a bit of respect that evokes for any of his characters..
@ Prasanna- the Dhanush movie you’ve mentioned is Pudupettai- good one.It didnt have Arthi Aggarwal,it had Sneha and Sonia Aggarwal.Quite a realistic take on the underworld.
yessss… thank you Sethu sir….. puthupettai…:) that movie created some respect for Dhanush as an actor for me man…. loved the darkness of the movie… one of the agarwals…they seem to be the khans and kapoors of heroines in south now :D … I actually saw Dhanush’s first moive only after I saw Puthupetai… till then I was like who’s gonna watch his flicks… then i was stellared by his, avg joe starting to believe he is sikandar and his fall acting…. brilliant..
One more thing seems to have disappeared with the multiplexes, the tapori kinda hero. Pokiri itself is a slang for a tapori kinda guy, and have to see how Salman pulls off that tapori stuff. AB of course rocked at such roles( AAA, Lawaaris), and Aamir was again brilliant in that stuff( Rangeela, Ghulam).
But Salman himself was good as a tapori in Judwaa and, Hello Brother!
So I think Salman can pull it off from historical evidences. His real-life bad boy image helps build up for that role too.
I had put a (bomb alert) in ^^ this post but vanished coz of choice of bad tags!!
Ture dat Ratna sir.
Salman Khan as tapori type hero would be cool again.
Aajoo bajoo aane wale, daayein baayein jaane wale saare kahte hain humko Tapori, tap tap tap tapori
Chalo Wanted 100 Days chale ya na chale, yeh post to 100 comments mark pe aa gaya hai.
Ratnakar Sir, 100 days would be tough but picture chal jayegi…
Honestly till some 10 days ago I had my reservations on Wanted.But I think it now looks almost certain to be a safe bet at the box office.The movie is all around us and the buzz is encouraging.With Wanted on one hand and Kamal Haasan and Mohanlal/Venkatesh’s Unnai Pol Oruvan/Eenadu it looks like Dil Bole Hadippa is certainly cornered this week
Salman can play the tapori very well indeed.Its just that the role required someone slightly younger- but for lack of better choices Salman is definitely good.I liked his Judwaa act very well.I dont know why people are repeating again and again that its gonna be OTT.Come on guys- there will be punch dialogues but nothing too
lengthy and the action scenes though flashy will certainly not look tacky.
and with a supporting cast that consists of Prakash Raj,Mahesh Manjrekar,Vinod Khanna etc, its going to be a decent watch all right.One thing I’ve missed out earlier is that the comedy track in the earlier versions ( especially Telugu ) was kickass- I doubt if that can be replicated in Hindi.Brahmanandam was absolutely hilarious!!!
Hopefully they will minimise Brahamanadam’s role or change it completely but not attempt to remake it the same way …
@PS.. u are right about Vivek, he is fighting alone and I think he will do justice to his talent by RGV new flick…
I think no one has mentioned Aan so far here…I think it was one of the last out & out action movie having both AK & SS…yes they copied a “cool” scene from Equilibrium…but still overall I liked the film…Also Sunil Shetty consumes around 50 bullets in his death, probably for the last time…
Yes I had watched AAN and it was a decent movies, but I watched it for the Irfaan Khan !!:)
Aan actually followed a slew of “cop” flicks Khakee, ATC, Garv, Dev, i think Madhur B wanted to do an Untouchables/LA Confidential kinda flick, but the dialogues were pretty hard hitting, and liked Akshay’s performance in the movie as the “Good” cop.
Yea!! Aan was pretty decent. And many of its elements also came under ’so-bad-its good’, like the equilibrium fight u refer too. I was like totally perplexed “WTF just happened?”
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There were some DIALOGUES like “Billi ke naakhoon badhe ne par woh sher nahi ban jaata/ti” and the Shatru bhaiyya gem “Tumhare neeche ki zameen itni garam kar doonaga. ki joote tak pe bhi chaale pad jaayenge”
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The scene I really liked was–Akshay Kumar hands Rahul dev over to the constables. Rahul Dev provokes him. The screen turns B&W and AK shoots Rahul Dev in slo mo and sends him off the high rise bldg. Shetty comes running and Asks “Yeda kaha gaya??” AK replies “Oopar!!” Priceless.
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Here too Shetty endlessly salivates while combating death. Ajinkya Deo is puzzled that Why the fuck isn’t he dying. And then Shetty helps him “(pointing to his temple) yahaan maarega tab Anna marega”. and BAM!! immediately Ajinkya deo, loads the gun and blows shetty’s temple. Shetty finally gives up. Everyone is relieved!!!
Shetty was actually a decent actor in Border, Refugee,Jungle, Hera Pheri early on, but after getting praises for his performances in those movies, he somehow began to imagine himself as Sean Penn, and started carrying that hangover into every performance of his, trying too hard, twitching, grimacing.
Objection mee laurd…..
Shetty has exactly the same expression in all his movies…. From Balwaan to Daddy Cool (sorry for having liked it)…. He never was a “good actor”…. I classify him as Jaggu dada part II…. Sab ka dost/ perfect 2nd lead/ wanna be businessman (here he might actually be more successful than Jackie)
But to give him credit… When he first came on the scene, he showed promises of being India’s answer to Arnie/Sly…. maar dhaad… muscle flexing (even salman was not an established muscle man then)…. and as PS would say…. yeh aaya dharti ka laal… ab dega ek laga ke….. fortunately unfortunately gopi kisen/hera pheri changed it for him……
As a businessman, Shetty Anna has been succesful, with his Mischief boutique and then his Popkorn Entertainment one. Beats me though how he won the Best Villian for Dhadkan.
Arey Sucker bhai… Shetty aur Jaggu dada ko ek category mein daal rahe ho???!! First of all, Jackie was a killer looker. For me he looked his best in Roop ki rani, with those shades on!! ekdum dhasu!!
Secondly Jackie has Angaar and Gardish in his resume. Do I need to elaborate the intensity he shows in these 2 films??
Thirdly he had style. And the best proof would be the scarf muffler coolth he displayed in Gali gali mein.
haha…. I know what you are saying magar anna ka nearest comparison point koi aur nahin mila….
- waise looks wise Jaggu is +1 over Anna
- Angaar/Gardish: I recently liked him in Eklavya as well (I seem to have a knack of liking some big flops). But then Jaggu dada is atleast a decade senior. Maybe Anna catches up (Although I doubt)
- Style… lagta hai tumne biggest loser nahin dekha…. Anna ka style dikh jaata ;-)
Sunil Shetty rocks, given an full fledged action film he can still pull it off.When given a chance has proved himself in comedy also.
Cinemausher.. absolutly no sarcasm here, I definately wish to meet you once man.. I havent heard anybody ever say something about sunil shetty with so much of conviction… its actually good to find someone (trust me the first one I am knowing) is vouching for SS… nice yaar..
Sunil Shetty hasnt done a solo hero action movie in nearly a decade, so chances of him getting another is very remote.For me the ultimate action hero in Bollywood ( apart from AB ) is not Akshay,Sunil or Ajay Devgan- it is Mithunda.How come we are not talking about our beloved Gunmaster G9? given a chance he will still kickass.
Mast comment mama, Yo bro!!! Tomrw show booked a? “Unnai pol oruvan”??? Enjoy macha. Is it running in Sathyam?
Sridhar – machan I’ll be hopefully watching UPO on saturday or sunday.You watching Eenadu tomorrow?what happened to your Chennai visit?I’ll also watch Salman miya’s Wanted for sure!!!
Yes UPO is releasing in Sathyam also.
Heard Baanam is quite good.Anjaneyulu and Josh havent really rocked.Last Telugu movie I enjoyed is Magadheera.Some solid action scenes there I must say.
Sorry machi, cant make it for UPO…but will make a suprise visit in Oct….will call you…
And, yes Anjaneyulu and Josh have sunk…Magadheera is breaking records….its still running full in single screens….
Im going for Sallu’s Wanted first tmrw night show then on Sat or Sun ‘Enadu’ if time permits…
And, where is Magik these days…is he active on club? Say my ‘Hi’ to him…
And Baanam? Really…that guy looks dumb on screen da….nahi bol sakte….will give it a thought in a week….
But, the promos look interesting….chuddam…
@Prassana,
Tell the time and place.
@Sethu,
But then last great Hindi Action movie was Gadar or to an Extent Indian.
Ghajini worked because of love story, it had raw action.
I read somewhere Sunil was keen to GopiKishan 2 waiting for that.
For sure over some movie man… where are you based off?
one of the action movies which had everything right wrt to a typical indian pot boiler masala action movie, but failed purely due to the extreme perfect looking hero with a pathetic performance was Deewanapan … the one where arjun rampal keeps ripping his top off and howling…. the movie had all the pot boilers, but the hero needs to have that raw edge or potential … it was one of the movies, where Vinod Khanna shows what it is to be the action star…. his glances, dialogues, “Shivam Shivam Shivam” BGM, was the only piece that made that movie a lil more exciting… especially in the last fight, with Sukhwinder singh singing away to glory, till this guy finally gives away his daughter like giving alms… damn … it was like the league of action heros finally ready to stand away for feel goody movies…
Holy shit TA on Bollywood Hungama has given 4 stars to Wanted and calls it Salman’s best ever performance.
Lets see how much of what he says turns out to be true!!!
TA says it is good? The film must be bad.
rediff Raja Sen has given 2/5, says watch it… casually! i like his play of words, if nothing. UP rocks! specially in 3D!
Shouldn’t Salman be in jail for killing humans and animals?
@Prasanna,
Mumbai
Cinemausher… next time I am in Mumbai… we shalt see a movie..
Satya was released in 1998 and MI in 1996..are you sure you were in 9th grade when both the movies released
http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/news/2009/10/08/13344/index.html
Sunny Paaji and Santoshi together!!!! Badhai Ho..Badhai Ho!!!
That seems to be some good news.
Thanks mate
tussi great ho Sunny paaji
“Sunny doesn’t need to flash six packs to be an action hero. One look from him is enough to defeat an army of enemies”
just awesome